You want to disagree with one of my facts? Provide a good defense. Other than that, go back to your Obamacare cheerleading skirts and matching pink panty. Be specific on the defense? I dare you.
August 2013 Pilot Discussion
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You want to disagree with one of my facts? Provide a good defense. Other than that, go back to your Obamacare cheerleading skirts and matching pink panty. Be specific on the defense? I dare you.
Typical California liberal. Just make fun of their chevy when you have your bmw you inherited from your hard working parents. Makes perfect sense to you.
I would work on the viagra pill dose with your wife if I were you. They want their husbands weak and lovers strong in your state.
I would work on the viagra pill dose with your wife if I were you. They want their husbands weak and lovers strong in your state.
Thanks for providing the following, 767jetz.
PBS at Ual is like your PBS station, you pay for it, they sold it to you.
http://ual.alpa.org/...51/Default.aspx
PBS at Ual is like your PBS station, you pay for it, they sold it to you.
http://ual.alpa.org/...51/Default.aspx
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MEC Resolutions
Special MEC Meeting, 2/15/08
Washington, DC
Moved by Jones/Rogers
WHEREAS the US Airways and America West MECs’ Three Man Steering Committees
were unable to reach agreement on seniority integration issues, and
WHEREAS the US Airways MEC/JNC and the America West MEC/JNC must reach
agreement on a comprehensive contract proposal, including seniority integration issues,
prior to resuming JNC negotiations with US Airways management,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the status quo consisting of separate operations,
under the terms of the Transition Agreement, be maintained until such time as the
America West and US Airways MECs engage in the process as mandated by the
Executive Council to devise a mutually acceptable solution to outstanding seniority
integration and contract issues.
Passes Unanimously
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Subject: AAA Steering Group Appreciation
Moved by Ciabattoni/Brookman
BE IT RESOLVED that the AAA MEC acknowledges and appreciates the hard work of
the AAA MEC Steering Group on behalf of the AAA pilots, and that the principles
established by the AAA MEC were never compromised.
Passes by Acclamation
MEC Resolutions
Special MEC Meeting, 2/15/08
Washington, DC
Moved by Jones/Rogers
WHEREAS the US Airways and America West MECs’ Three Man Steering Committees
were unable to reach agreement on seniority integration issues, and
WHEREAS the US Airways MEC/JNC and the America West MEC/JNC must reach
agreement on a comprehensive contract proposal, including seniority integration issues,
prior to resuming JNC negotiations with US Airways management,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the status quo consisting of separate operations,
under the terms of the Transition Agreement, be maintained until such time as the
America West and US Airways MECs engage in the process as mandated by the
Executive Council to devise a mutually acceptable solution to outstanding seniority
integration and contract issues.
Passes Unanimously
__________________________________________________________________
Subject: AAA Steering Group Appreciation
Moved by Ciabattoni/Brookman
BE IT RESOLVED that the AAA MEC acknowledges and appreciates the hard work of
the AAA MEC Steering Group on behalf of the AAA pilots, and that the principles
established by the AAA MEC were never compromised.
Passes by Acclamation
"MCF CBA Funding Resolution WHEREAS of the top 14 ALPA Carriers operating similar aircraft as US Airways, the AAA flight hour pay rate sets the bar for the lowest rate, and WHEREAS the AAA MEC has been granted MCF Funds to be used in conjunction with the AWA MEC to fund a campaign to achieve a better CBA, and WHEREAS the AWA MEC Chairman reported publicly that he approached management with a message that AWA pilots would be outraged if management granted the AAA pilots equal pay rates as compared to the AWA pilots,
and WHEREAS ALPA President John Prater has committed to providing all recourses necessarily to raise the bar for pay for all ALPA pilots and WHEREAS it is unacceptable for any union group to object to another group being paid the same for doing the same work, and WHEREAS the recently passed MEC Resolution “equivalent contract negotiations” sets the foundation of the AAA MEC’s strategy in dealing with the Nicolau award, and calls for separate operations and separate contracts from the AWA pilots, and
WHEREAS the use of MCF Funds have been approved for seeking pay raises for the AAA pilots via the JNC process, and WHEREAS at minimum these same MCF Funds should be made available to also seek pay raises via parity raise for the AAA pilots, as the first step in seeking an industry standard plus contract, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the AAA MEC directs all three MEC Officers to meet initially with ALPA President John Prater and then with ALPA’s Executive Council as soon as practical and request the release of AAA MEC’s portion of the MCF funds with an updated time line for their use, so as to mutually achieve the goals of both the AAA MEC and all ALPA pilots by raising the lowest pay rate bar, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the AAA MEC Officers report back to the AAA MEC as soon as practical on the results of both meetings.
and WHEREAS ALPA President John Prater has committed to providing all recourses necessarily to raise the bar for pay for all ALPA pilots and WHEREAS it is unacceptable for any union group to object to another group being paid the same for doing the same work, and WHEREAS the recently passed MEC Resolution “equivalent contract negotiations” sets the foundation of the AAA MEC’s strategy in dealing with the Nicolau award, and calls for separate operations and separate contracts from the AWA pilots, and
WHEREAS the use of MCF Funds have been approved for seeking pay raises for the AAA pilots via the JNC process, and WHEREAS at minimum these same MCF Funds should be made available to also seek pay raises via parity raise for the AAA pilots, as the first step in seeking an industry standard plus contract, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the AAA MEC directs all three MEC Officers to meet initially with ALPA President John Prater and then with ALPA’s Executive Council as soon as practical and request the release of AAA MEC’s portion of the MCF funds with an updated time line for their use, so as to mutually achieve the goals of both the AAA MEC and all ALPA pilots by raising the lowest pay rate bar, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the AAA MEC Officers report back to the AAA MEC as soon as practical on the results of both meetings.
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IMO, this is where the train left the tracks. During the USAir/Piedmont merger, the first thing the CEO did was to pay all pilots the same wage......sure, there were differences in opinion about SLI, but we were all treated respectfully and put on a level playing field. I think that being the regional airline that AWA was, not only did the CEO see a chance to screw us all, but the pilots had no clue as to what the word unity meant. SLI could have been worked out over time, but the NIC came out and the hungry greed of the West pilots blinded them since they had never had such an opportunity to leap frog into a "real" airline career, having been the lowest paid pilots in the industry since 1983. breeze
Claxton and EastUS1 are in a contest to see who can post more insanity this weekend. Except that Claxton gets paid to spread propaganda. Funny stuff, not intentionally funny, but still funny. I wonder who will win? "The suspense is terrible... I hope it'll last." - Willy Wonka
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What? You disagree with my opinion? Does that permit name calling? Am I wrong in that, when the NIC came out, the West demanded no pay parity and totally refused to talk about reaching an agreement, to this day, in SLI? Is that not where this whole divergence began? Isn't that the very moment that Parker started building his little empire off the backs of his pilots?
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Yes , only a jerk would claim the West were trying to leap frog the "real airline careers" of lower paid pilots of a bankrupt airline.
Pilots with "real airline careers" don't make LOA 93 wages.
Well, if we are going to get into name calling, AZZHOLE, the real airline careers had the promise of moving up and getting into a better contract, not to mention WB aircraft. That is something that was never gonna happen at AWA as a stand alone. That was a huge move up for them......then add in the gain of 15 yrs of seniority, it must have been a dream come true. NIC put lottery ticket dreams into their minds, then they would accept nothing less. The problem is, we were not gonna roll over for them. Keep your name calling to yourself.
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The "real airline careers" where the WB Captains make less than the F/Os at the other airlines?
You are pathetic, we don't have "real airline careers".
Thanks for making my point. Had we started off on a level playing field and the same wages, then worked out our SLI, things more than likely would have turned out totally different......because we would have been working together. I find it pathetic that you wait to reply until I have signed off each time.....some kind of wimp problem, or what? I am gonna sign off and go to bed in 5 mins......here's your chance to prove that you're not a wimp.
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