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[restore03]

TWU and AA were unable to reach an agreement in their 'Super Session" therefore resulting
in mediation. Something the company had hoped for all along! :down:

 

[bigdawg52]

TWU and AA were unable to reach an agreement in their 'Super Session" therefore resulting
in mediation. Something the company had hoped for all along! :down:

And this info came frome where, not second guessing just like to dot the eyes and cross the tees. You know what I am saying.

The company had us at when we said hello.

 

[restore03]

And this info came frome where, not second guessing just like to dot the eyes and cross the tees. You know what I am saying

bigdawg, I work in Dallas and just received a call from a union friend/brother. Didn't have time for details.

 

[WeAAsles]

It's on the TWU negotiations website and I got a text from my local rep. Hey they negotiated for 7 months. Good enough to go into mediation in my opinion. Whatever the outcome about a year from now, just don't vote yes without retro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😛h34r:

 

[Bob Owens]

It's on the TWU negotiations website and I got a text from my local rep. Hey they negotiated for 7 months. Good enough to go into mediation in my opinion. Whatever the outcome about a year from now, just don't vote yes without retro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😛h34r:

You mean 7 months past the amendable date dont you? IIRC they started negotiations 6 months prior with the hopes of having an agreement by May.

 

[Hopeful]

It's on the TWU negotiations website and I got a text from my local rep. Hey they negotiated for 7 months. Good enough to go into mediation in my opinion. Whatever the outcome about a year from now, just don't vote yes without retro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😛h34r:

If they go to mediation, which usually means binding arbitration eventually, there will be no vote on anything.

 

[LGA Fleet Service]

So they'll be sitting down with the mediator sometime next year and AA will still be handing over proposals that get progressively worse.

I figure we'll see something next June.

Wheeeeee.

 

[Bob Owens]

From the Negotiations Update;

Do not subscribe to breakroom rumors and management whispers. Your TWU Negotiating Committee NEEDS YOU to stay informed. Talks are reaching a critical stage as the amendable date draws nearer. Go to NegotiAAte.twu.org and subscribe for the most accurate information.

Shouldnt they update the update? The amendable date was seven months ago.

Looks like they will have an announcement on Monday, the 15th.

For now it looks like the only place to get any info is here, as usual.

 

[bigdawg52]

From the Negotiations Update;


Shouldnt they update the update? The amendable date was seven months ago.

Looks like they will have an announcement on Monday, the 15th.

For now it looks like the only place to get any info is here, as usual.

Bob I got the same info, you did. All that it says in those four lines is "relative to federal mediation" and info on the 15th of Dec.

So I do not know what to read into this!

 

[WeAAsles]

http://www.nmb.gov/mediation/factsheet_thru-fy07.pdf

Lets hope they weren't too far apart on a contract. But seeing the company's last 2 proposals I have a feeling they are. The union needs to post on the website where they were at at the conclusion of there talks?

 

[WeAAsles]

You mean 7 months past the amendable date dont you? IIRC they started negotiations 6 months prior with the hopes of having an agreement by May.

That is what I mean Bob. All I know is whenever this finally ends, I want a big fat retro check. AA wanted a 2 year extention anyway and I think we already gave enough blood.

 

[DallasConehead]

If they go to mediation, which usually means binding arbitration eventually, there will be no vote on anything.

You sir are incorrect! There is no "binding arbitration" under the RLA. For the umpteenth time, mediation, impasse, cooling off period, free to strike, free to impose "yellowdog".

Get with the program dude...

 

[restore03]

You sir are incorrect! There is no "binding arbitration" under the RLA. For the umpteenth time, mediation, impasse, cooling off period, free to strike, free to impose "yellowdog".

Get with the program dude...

There is no "forced" binding arbitration, but it can be agreed upon by both parties dude! 🙄

Both parties agree to binding arbitration Either party or both decline binding Arbitration Board of Arbitration convenes, may hold a hearing, and issues a Binding Decision A 30-day cooling-off (status-quo) period is invoked.

 

[Bob Owens]

There is no "forced" binding arbitration, but it can be agreed upon by both parties dude! 🙄

Both parties agree to binding arbitration Either party or both decline binding Arbitration Board of Arbitration convenes, may hold a hearing, and issues a Binding Decision A 30-day cooling-off (status-quo) period is invoked.

This website has a good Q& A on the RLA .

http://www.ipapilot.org/media/rla.asp

Release from the NMB may free the parties to self help, if the President doesnt declare a PEB.
From the website:

What happens if either party rejects the PEB's proposed agreement?
If either party rejects the PEB's proposal, the parties may, after the second 30-day cooling off period, engage in self-help.

Is there any circumstance in which the parties are constrained from engaging in self-help after rejecting a PEB's proposal?
Yes. It is possible for Congress to intervene and legislatively mandate a settlement. If this is done, Congress most typically would simply take the recommendations of the PEB and write them into law. This would mean that a contract would be legislated by Congress and no strike or no membership ratification would be allowed.

 

[tech2101]

There is no "forced" binding arbitration, but it can be agreed upon by both parties dude! 🙄

Both parties agree to binding arbitration Either party or both decline binding Arbitration Board of Arbitration convenes, may hold a hearing, and issues a Binding Decision A 30-day cooling-off (status-quo) period is invoked.

I cannot remember any time when both parties in a RLA dispute agreed to arbitration (at least not any airline within the last 20 years or so)...but I could be wrong.