Candidates for Change

[proAMT]

The TWU 514 has elections coming up in June and a forum has been created so that the candidates can list their beliefs and opinions about how the 514 should be run and the membership can make better choices.

I believe after everything we have been thru the 514 needs an overhaul. If, like me, you believe major surgery is needed on the 514 please consider becoming a candidate for change and expressing your ideas for change on...


http://www.change514.com

 

[High Speed Steel]

The TWU 514 has elections coming up in June and a forum has been created so that the candidates can list their beliefs and opinions about how the 514 should be run and the membership can make better choices.

I believe after everything we have been thru the 514 needs an overhaul. If, like me, you believe major surgery is needed on the 514 please consider becoming a candidate for change and expressing your ideas for change on...
http://www.change514.com

Hey proAMT, where did you go to High School? Did you have a High School sweetheart :wub: ?....Who was she? Are you married now? Any kids? What is your income? What is your debt-load? What do you do in the mornings? How about the weekends... Drink beer? Have any childhood dreams which continue to haunt you? What was the name of your first puppy?

Please answere....

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< ------ I believe "total amputation" is the order of the day! That go's for all the locals!!!!--

 

[High Speed Steel]

<_< ------ I believe "total amputation" is the order of the day! That go's for all the locals!!!!--

There is a point to this. Stay tuned 😀

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

<_< ------ I believe "total amputation" is the order of the day! That go's for all the locals!!!!--

MCI, the amputation should be at the international level. But th e reason this new web site was created, www.change514.com, is so the election process will have an oportunity for all candidates to explain themselves and their beliefs instead of people just guessing on election day on whom to vote for.

Most people do not go to the Local Hall to see who is running and it boils down to who shook your hand last and remembering their name. Most people did not even vote in 514's last election. Perhaps this will allow a better change for people to step forward and actually be accountable. I wish those running for the protection of our craft in the 514 the best.

By the way hss. You ask a lot of questions in your previous post. Your example of stupidity is PRICELESS! 😉

 

[The Dissident]

Please dont tell me were going for more of that change from within crap. What we need is some old school union justice.

 

[Bob Owens]

Please dont tell me were going for more of that change from within crap. What we need is some old school union justice.

Why not?

Are there any other options on the horizon?

 

[proAMT]

HSS-it's worse than you think.

I'm an insomniac.

 

[High Speed Steel]

HSS-it's worse than you think.

I'm an insomniac.

proAMT, I didn't expect you would respond to the questions, a little too private to disclose on the world wide web huh?

Just one follow up question;

Have you ever taken the Membership Pledge?

 

[TWU informer]

Maybe High Speed Steel is right.

Is it better to have a simpleton printed business card to decide who to vote for rather than have a forum that allows back and forth communication? Nah, communication using today's technology has to be a change for the better. The problem isn't the technology, the problem is the user, or the fear mongering union member that so afraid of change that he is willing to post silly questions to simply make a point instead of using the blogs to advance his knowledge of candidate positions. Of course there is a remedy for that also when the time comes.

Just because a child ask a question, doesn't mean the adult has to answer it.

Those same questions could be asked at the blog, and the candidate is free to refuse to answer based on not relevant to our group issues.

I suspect readers would actually understand why some of those wouldn't be answered and instead, would hope that someone like High Speed Steel is not running for office if he thinks those questions are going to put food on the table.

 

[Hopeful]

I would like to know from the Tulsa people the "overall" feeling of this "working together at any cost" process going on between the union and the company.

I am just curious does Burchette really control his local members feelings. No one is arguing that it is a good thing to bring work in house, but at what point do you say "IT'S TIME TO GIVE US SOMETHING BACK?

 

[Bill]

MCI, the amputation should be at the international level. But th e reason this new web site was created, www.change514.com, is so the election process will have an oportunity for all candidates to explain themselves and their beliefs instead of people just guessing on election day on whom to vote for.

Most people do not go to the Local Hall to see who is running and it boils down to who shook your hand last and remembering their name. Most people did not even vote in 514's last election. Perhaps this will allow a better change for people to step forward and actually be accountable. I wish those running for the protection of our craft in the 514 the best.

By the way hss. You ask a lot of questions in your previous post. Your example of stupidity is PRICELESS! 😉

So, because people DON'T want to get involved with the election process, take the initiative to go out and meet the candidates that's the fault of the candidates? Some people don't have computers? What do you suggest they do? All be it, I think the idea is a good one as far as having a place to put the information but do you think that will make more people vote? Visibility is the key. Shaking hands, looking people in the eye.
And involvement on the part of the union member is also key. Each individual needs to have accountability as well.

As for the comments of cleaning house, I do believe we had several people replaced at the last election. New president, new chairmen, new board members. I know that most of you here just don't like the current officers (personality conflicts or whatever) but personal feelings aside, I do beleive this is the best group we have had in a very long time. They have managed to get a lot accomplished. There is so much that can be done when the company has your hands tied. Union or not. Most of you don't have a clue as to what goes on during the daily meetings or do you know how much the union is actually involved in making day to day decisions that once was only left up to the company. These accomplishments are inpart due to the fight of the currents officers.

I am all for replacing those who are not doing their jobs but be careful what you wish for. This is a very critical time and negotiations are coming up. We certainly don't want someone in there who doesn't have a clue. Being a dedicated union member and leading a union are two totally different things.



And Hopeful, a quick response to your question....
Dennis Burchette does not control his members feelings. That does not even make sense. He is 514 president....not GOD! He is the current 514 president who makes decisons that a president is allowed to make. I don't think many of you even know Dennis but he is vigilant and a strong union man. Does everyone like him....doubt it. But does everyone like everyone....NO. The TUL folks on this board are still disgruntled from the AMFA debacle and will never admit the recent progression that has been made. All they look at is the negative. You can see that from all their posts. We are close to getting concessions back and you can bet that at contract time 514 will fight as hard as they can to get them. The company needs to be successful, needs to make money in order to get concessions back...plain and simple. The "working together process" is working. And it gives us great leverage.

The opinions of the few on this board does not reflect the majority in TUL. Most are working hard and cooperating because they do see the bigger picture. The few here just want to elect a new president and that will make things "better". Again, no individual accountablity.

Remember....these are the ones who wanted to vote amfa in and go to bankruptcy. That was their solution then.

The bigger picture.............

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

"I don't think many of you even know Dennis but he is vigilant and a strong union man."

Let's remember this quote when burchette goes into management after the current elections/contract.

Now bill, it is not the candidates fault for union members not getting involved in the election process. I never said that. But you know how Tulsa elections go. This new forum will only enhance the availability for those wishing information. That is information not controlled by Local 514 officials.

As for burchette, you said, "He is the current 514 president who makes decisons that a president is allowed to make." Is that like having a new union hall built even though the members did not want one built?

Face it, burchette could care less about the Line guys. No is THAT a "strong union man"?

 

[TWU informer]

Candidates for Local 514 Officers Postitions have nothing to fear by placing their name on a blog at www.change514.com , and although the domain name reflects change, incumbents are invited to participate in the communication advanced website.

Afterall, with thousands of business cards printed and ready to distribute directing members to the website, this could be a place for any candidate to score a few needed votes to win. What a great resource for a Candidate, business cards paid for and distributed to direct the voting members to a place to communicate. Can't beat that deal!

Anyone afraid of the website or open communications, is not likely a candidate that should be taken serious.

Bill...High Speed Steel...If you are running for Office, you are also invited. Those that favor and are involved in the "working together" program, which Bill keeps claiming we all know nothing about, can surely spend the time to post their beliefs and happenings to educate those that may not be involved. Maybe there is a side to it opponents are missing. Well, then educate the members, don't just stand a complain they don't understand, or know what is going on behind closed doors. Open the damn doors and show everyone the facts if it so good!

It will be interesting to watch and see the reaction of the current leadership to this open communication link.

I think the website should also start either a "letters from the line" section, or even open a Line Mechanic blog to allow the brothers and sisters of Line Maintenance to express their opinions of Local 514 choices for Election of Officers. Afterall, we are all in this together. At least currently we are in it together that is, but I personally fear a seperation of labor agreements is in our future.

Good Luck to ALL who are willing to step forward and run for union office. Those of us that have been around know damn well that it is indeed a thankless job to say the least.

 

[Bill]

"I don't think many of you even know Dennis but he is vigilant and a strong union man."

Let's remember this quote when burchette goes into management after the current elections/contract.

Now bill, it is not the candidates fault for union members not getting involved in the election process. I never said that. But you know how Tulsa elections go. This new forum will only enhance the availability for those wishing information. That is information not controlled by Local 514 officials.

As for burchette, you said, "He is the current 514 president who makes decisons that a president is allowed to make." Is that like having a new union hall built even though the members did not want one built?

Face it, burchette could care less about the Line guys. No is THAT a "strong union man"?

Ken, I'd be willing to bet you don't even know Burchette. Maybe in passing, but not enough to make claim that you know what he is for and not for.

As for the union hall, as president he did have the power to make that decision. Make a motion to remove that power if you have an argument with it.