CLt Hotel(if you call it that)

[X-U]

First group checked into the Extinct Inn(Extended Inn)
1) No FRESH CHANGED Towels..(bring your own)
2) Sheets changed once every 7 days!
3) No vending machines ANY WHERE!
4) No little AMENITIES AT ALL>No Shampoo's, or Hairdryers.
Once again USEless Air strikes..
EL Cheapo for the employees!

CHeap Ba$T@RD$!

I wonder if Parker and Kirby stay their when they visit CLT?

 

[john john]

The property is located 30-45 minute drive ON A SCHOOL BUS from the site of our training sessions. A 1 ½ -2 hour daily round trip excessive and unnecessary. Managers, trainers, and crews have been accommodated at downtown and other hotels located 10-15 minutes from the training facility. Why are agents not afforded the same considerations with regard to proximity? The property has a policy which allows pets up to 80lbs. while many of us have pets which we certainly treasure, we find it highly unsuitable to stay at a property which could be overrun with noisy animals, unpleasant smells and allergy inducing pet hair and dander. No restaurants or room service is available at the property. Only frozen dinners are available for sale at the hotel. We have been made aware of only one restaurant within walking distance of the property, which apparently has a limited seafood menu. Agents who have previously attended training have reported that the fare at this restaurant was substandard and barely edible. With a limited per diem agents opting to look elsewhere for dining opinions would end up in a negative cash flow position after either paying cab fare to another restaurant, or paying the charge for a trip to a local grocery store.

 

[SKY HIGH]

Nobody gets gate codes by looking over my shoulder because I MAKE A POINT of shielding the code with my body position. Something that I think most of us remember from security training. It's only common sense. If you're not doing it, you are in violation of security policy.
If you want to play secret agent, be my guest. But your paranoia is getting old.

sky high states: Paranoia? Hardly! Safety on the job is what we can both agree on. It's OUR JOB. However, mine EXTENDS past the property of the airport, busdriver.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/2..._HOTEL_ROOM.asp


http://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index..../gorton_13.html

http://www.idahopress.com/articles/2004/10...news/story3.prt


only stating opinions

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> Wonder if the media would have a field day with this and make US looks like smucks!

Come to think of it, Dateline NBC or some other tee vee program did a segment on hotel security a while back.

One of the dumps featured was our old long BWI. They even showed the security camera enclosure in the ceiling that had no camera in it.

 

[Breath_of_Fresh_USAirways]

First group checked into the Extinct Inn(Extended Inn)
1) No FRESH CHANGED Towels..(bring your own)
2) Sheets changed once every 7 days!
3) No vending machines ANY WHERE!
4) No little AMENITIES AT ALL>No Shampoo's, or Hairdryers.
Once again USEless Air strikes..
EL Cheapo for the employees!

CHeap Ba$T@RD$!

How much can USEless Air instructors put up with? Let's see:

1) So, if USEless Air expects you to bring your own TOWELS and you didn't (who does?) then don't shower or wash.
2) Wear the same clothes to class EVERY day.
3) Hmm. Don't have response for this except to say that most vending machines don't have healthy food in them, anyways. Be sure to get "extra" food at lunchtime during class and bring it back to the class room -- make a big deal of it in front of the instructors -- the smellier the better, all afternoon, for example...
4) If you're not showering then you won't need shampoo or a hairdryer. If you do break down and shower, go to class with wet hair -- see what they have to say.

Even at the low, low salary of an agent, their homes are in better order than this hotel. Once again, you get what you pay for and no one should have to put up with this. I know of kennels that treat their guests better than this (and it probably costs more per night, though!)

 

[gabby]

Come to think of it, Dateline NBC or some other tee vee program did a segment on hotel security a while back.

One of the dumps featured was our old long BWI. They even showed the security camera enclosure in the ceiling that had no camera in it.

I think the biggest threat to your health is not some terrorist following you to your hotel room but the air quality in those rooms.
You are more likely to get sick from mouse droppings or pneunomia from mold then some Iraqi terrorist hunting you down. Don't play into the federal goverments hands and be scared everywhere you go. Live Free or Die.

 

[Barbell]

It's actually not the instructors who make this horrid hotel choice. The person you want to express your concerns to is the manager of the CAD, and I encourage everyone on this board to be as relentless, vocal, and persistent as possible in doing so (remember, though, to keep it professional and above board).

We should all let her know that this "choice" of hotel is substandard, inhumane, unsafe, and unacceptable.

 

[Dog Wonder]

It's actually not the instructors who make this horrid hotel choice. The person you want to express your concerns to is the manager of the CAD, and I encourage everyone on this board to be as relentless, vocal, and persistent as possible in doing so (remember, though, to keep it professional and above board).

CAD doesn't choose or book Training hotel rooms for East.

 

[N965VJ]

I think the biggest threat to your health is not some terrorist following you to your hotel room but the air quality in those rooms.
You are more likely to get sick from mouse droppings or pneunomia from mold then some Iraqi terrorist hunting you down. Don't play into the federal goverments hands and be scared everywhere you go. Live Free or Die.

The tee vee show I’m referring to aired long before worries about terrorists. The concern was more about your average perp getting into your room.

As for expecting the government to protect me, I’ll just say that my home is definitely NOT an Unarmed Victim Zone.

EDIT: FWIW the BWI dump had live entertainment in the bar; watching the cockroaches crawl up the wall. Later on in the evening, the sirens at the fire station across the street would lull you to sleep.

 

[TpDogDP]

My job here requires me to travel often and I used the CAD desk once and I will never do it again. I was booked into a hotel in Las Vegas that had the same substandard cleaning. I went to take a shower and there was hair on the walls, I went to get in the bed and there was hair in the sheets. Keep in mind I am bald and I was the only person in the room. I know for a fact when the upper brass travels they stay at 5 star hotels. We should all have the same treatment.

 

[Barbell]

CAD doesn't choose or book Training hotel rooms for East.

Do you know that for a fact?

I'd be surprised if they didn't since CAD is an import from East.

 

[gabby]

How much can USEless Air instructors put up with? Let's see:

1) So, if USEless Air expects you to bring your own TOWELS and you didn't (who does?) then don't shower or wash.
2) Wear the same clothes to class EVERY day.
3) Hmm. Don't have response for this except to say that most vending machines don't have healthy food in them, anyways. Be sure to get "extra" food at lunchtime during class and bring it back to the class room -- make a big deal of it in front of the instructors -- the smellier the better, all afternoon, for example...
4) If you're not showering then you won't need shampoo or a hairdryer. If you do break down and shower, go to class with wet hair -- see what they have to say.

Even at the low, low salary of an agent, their homes are in better order than this hotel. Once again, you get what you pay for and no one should have to put up with this. I know of kennels that treat their guests better than this (and it probably costs more per night, though!)

Now spend 200 days a year in this type of hotel and tell me we don't deserve better. Crews are being taken advantage of plain and simple.

 

[hula-flyguy]

Now spend 200 days a year in this type of hotel and tell me we don't deserve better. Crews are being taken advantage of plain and simple.

Doesn't ALPA and AFA have hotel committees that inspect the properties that we use?

 

[gabby]

Doesn't ALPA and AFA have hotel committees that inspect the properties that we use?

We do have a hotel commitee that is supposed to have control over the hotels. It doesn't. For a couple of reasons. First i am talking about PSA, i cannot speak for Mainline.
There is the company in Pittsburg (SSO) Shared Services Organization. They make our hotel choices for us.
In our contract it states that the company will give us a list of 5 hotels and the hotel commitee will decide where we stay.
In the real world the SSO lady that does the hotels looks on a map and finds and industrial park. As long as the price is less than $35/night we stay there.
Our management at PSA says that there is a letter of agreement with the pilots that because of the second bankruptcy the SSO now has control.

I have never come across this LOA

What is in Black and White:
Hotels have to meet certain criteria:
Single Room Lodging
Transportation to and from the airport.
If suitable restaurants are not available at or near the lodging facility or training site, the Company will authorize transportation to suitable restaurants and reimburse crews for reasonable expeses incurred for such transportation.

Flight Attendents i believe have to be on the second floor. And no motels. Doors must exit to locked hallway.

Very small portion of our contract is Hotels. Acutally our contract is very small. This leaves much room for improvement.


JUST REMEMBER YOU ARE NOT ON VACATION.



Sorry to answer your question: Does ALPA inspect the hotels?
No.,
The hotel (SSO) lady goes to each city when it is time to renegotiate the contracts and looks at each hotel. She does not stay there. Hotels get advanced notice of when she is coming....This lets them do a really good clean up job to get the contract. If she is OK with the Hotel and the price then there you are. 18 hrs in FAY industrial park. What do you do? No coffee shop, No mall, Just a Ruby Tuesdays.

 

[autofixer]

I just had an overnight, where I took and filled the sink with shampoo and hot water, so that I could use a washcloth and clean the nasty and hair coverd bathroom floor and bathtub. The carpet floor was not vacuumed and I kept stepping on some unknown substance. I have in the past,on a very short overnights, cleaned the sheets with soap and water, as they had something on them and the overnight was so short, I did not want to take the time to change rooms. This is standard mainline crew hotels.