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[luvthe9]

I don't want to and never did turn down anyone who needed a ride to work or was going somewhere to visit. But now there have been several incidents of our cockpit crewmembers being turned down for a ride because of this possible merger. We, USAir were giving you guys jumpseat long before you even had that privilege. You might want to also inform your ticket agents also. They seem to think they control YOUR jumpseat. Please try to keep this in mind. Thanks

 

[luv2fly]

I don't want to and never did turn down anyone who needed a ride to work or was going somewhere to visit. But now there have been several incidents of our cockpit crewmembers being turned down for a ride because of this possible merger. We, USAir were giving you guys jumpseat long before you even had that privilege. You might want to also inform your ticket agents also. They seem to think they control YOUR jumpseat. Please try to keep this in mind. Thanks

I don't think posting this information on these forums is the correct outlet to gain a resolution but I will offer the following.
At DL, the gate agent simply determines if the proposed jumpseat rider is eligible and on the approved JS list. The captain makes the final determination of course. If you believe that a gate agent is not giving you straight information, ask to speak to the captain.
In my years at DL I have never seen a captain deny a JS. In fact, we carried two of your guys to PHL just the other day out of ATL.
I would imagine these are fairly isolated instances and would caution against suggestions of a JS war because of them. The appropiate way to handle this would be to contact your JS coordinator and have them contact DL's with the flights in question in an attempt to let them handle it.

 

[luvthe9]

I don't think posting this information on these forums is the correct outlet to gain a resolution but I will offer the following.
At DL, the gate agent simply determines if the proposed jumpseat rider is eligible and on the approved JS list. The captain makes the final determination of course. If you believe that a gate agent is not giving you straight information, ask to speak to the captain.
In my years at DL I have never seen a captain deny a JS. In fact, we carried two of your guys to PHL just the other day out of ATL.
I would imagine these are fairly isolated instances and would caution against suggestions of a JS war because of them. The appropiate way to handle this would be to contact your JS coordinator and have them contact DL's with the flights in question in an attempt to let them handle it.

Your right, I hope this was a few isolated problems, but in one case in PHL, an ASA guy had jumpseat plenty of seats in the back the ASA guy offerd to sit in the back the agents remark was your going to seat in the jumpeat to the ASA guy and our guy was turned away. I to don't want to see any hurt by this, that is all I meant by my post. Sorry if you took offense.

 

[luv2fly]

Your right, I hope this was a few isolated problems, but in one case in PHL, an ASA guy had jumpseat plenty of seats in the back the ASA guy offerd to sit in the back the agents remark was your going to seat in the jumpeat to the ASA guy and our guy was turned away. I to don't want to see any hurt by this, that is all I meant by my post. Sorry if you took offense.

No offense at all luvthe9. I just think we could get these incidents resolved with better speed through the ALPA JS coordinators. I don't like hearing those kinds of stories.
Personally I would like to see an unlimited flow through will all carriers where any jumpseater is welcome as long as there is a seat on the plane.
In the case you described, the ASA jumpseater should have just used his regular nonrev privileges to take a seat in the back. That would have freed the JS for the US pilot.
Most captains I have flown with would have insisted this to happen. In fact, I have seen many take delays in order to accomodate.

 

[john john]

Was a positive space deadhead involved? Sometimes NRSP won’t take jumpseat

 

[EyeInTheSky]

This was going on long before the "merger" announcement. A commuting US pilot out of PNS was turned away by one DAL Cap. Sad, but true.

Later,
Eye

 

[BoeingBoy]

I think it's one of those unfortunate truisms in life that every group of any size has a handful of a$$es that tend to make life hard on everyone else. While they're hard to ignore, it's best to remember that they aren't representative of the group they're part of, whichever group that happens to be.

Jim

 

[bigbusdrvr]

I think it's one of those unfortunate truisms in life that every group of any size has a handful of a$$es that tend to make life hard on everyone else. While they're hard to ignore, it's best to remember that they aren't representative of the group they're part of, whichever group that happens to be.

Jim

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Would that mean delta777 is not representative of the entire delta pilot group????

 

[NYCDelta]

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Would that mean delta777 is not representative of the entire delta pilot group????

I can honestly say that in my 13 years, I have only flown with one DL pilot that was a complete jerk. Of course, I don't spend that much time in the cockpit. And, 99% of OAL j/s pilots are respectful and polite. I always put them in FC if it's available. I wish I could say the same about how NW treats me when I commute!

 

[luv2fly]

This was going on long before the "merger" announcement. A commuting US pilot out of PNS was turned away by one DAL Cap. Sad, but true.

Later,
Eye

As I am sure there have been US pilots that have turned down others for personal reasons. Thankfully these cases are largely isolated.
I recently talked to an AW pilot who complained about the way he was treated on a US jumpseat and here are two individuals who work for the same company. Sad, but true as well.

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

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Would that mean delta777 is not representative of the entire delta pilot group????

Is he even a Pilot?

 

[luv2fly]

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Would that mean delta777 is not representative of the entire delta pilot group????

Why is it that every thread has to turn into some kind of personal attack? I know we are all guilty of it at times but this was uncalled for and is completely off topic.