Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[mrbreeze]

That they never said. When I asked, they wouldn't even address the SLI.

They openly discussed it at the Philly meetings. I guess they expected to have an uproar if they told you guys the truth at your PHX meeting.
breeze

 

[nevergiveup]

East pilots can't bid west slots forever and ever? Really because that is not what usapa offered. That is not what the company accepted.

you must work on use of tense in your posts.

 

[flyer63]

Did the company ever appeal Judge Silvers ruling?

 

[Pi brat]

Did the company ever appeal Judge Silvers ruling?

Yes they did.

 

[spike99]

Hate to see how long this thread will be aa pilots join up! Are you guys sure there's enough hate for 3 airlines?

Gen P is this you? Gen L

 

[cleardirect]

He was introduced as the President of APA.

Wow you got quite the special road show. The president of APA and the merger lawyer telling you the Nicolau was dead and the MOU would get you DOH.

We only got the APA negotiator and the NAC telling us that the MOU was seniority neutral. That the MOU did not address seniority at all.

One of us was lied to.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Wow you got quite the special road show. The president of APA and the merger lawyer telling you the Nicolau was dead and the MOU would get you DOH.

We only got the APA negotiator and the NAC telling us that the MOU was seniority neutral. That the MOU did not address seniority at all.

One of us was lied to.

Sorry to hear that you didn't get the whole story where you were. Even if they had told you, you wouldn't have listened, which is likely what happened.

 

[jetjok1]

Wow you got quite the special road show. The president of APA and the merger lawyer telling you the Nicolau was dead and the MOU would get you DOH.

We only got the APA negotiator and the NAC telling us that the MOU was seniority neutral. That the MOU did not address seniority at all.

One of us was lied to.

Or both!!!

 

[prechilill]

1988 AA hire is a 767 captain
1988 east hire is a 320 fo

1988 AA hire is in the top 20% of the seniority list
1988 east hire is in the bottom 30% of the seniority list

DOH?

Talk amongst yourselves...

 

[PullUp]

1988 AA hire is a 767 captain
1988 east hire is a 320 fo

1988 AA hire is in the top 20% of the seniority list
1988 east hire is in the bottom 30% of the seniority list

DOH?

Talk amongst yourselves...

In all probability there will be fencing. With attrition at, say 5 years, how do the numbers match up?
Cheers.

 

[Zone5]

So what do you reckon Judge Silver meant when she said that USCABA was on dangerous ground if it abandoned the nic? Do you think you may not be getting the whole story? This is going to court well before the first seniority integration meeting with the APA. The West is going to shove the Nic down your throat via court order. USTUPID is welcome to attempt any type of integration with the APA they want as long as they don't attempt to reorder the nic first. That's illegal. Don't believe me? Ask a Jury.

Talk about delusional! You do understand the legal concept of Ripeness, don't you?


seajay

 

[prechilill]

In all probability there will be fencing. With attrition at, say 5 years, how do the numbers match up?
Cheers.

Close to where it is now since 30% of your attrition is already on medical.

 

[Zone5]

A logical presumption would be that her reference was to the opinions and rulings offered by Wake and Bybee who's legal views were generated based on the merits of the west claim rather than on a determination of ripeness alone that Tashima and Graber ruled on. Going back to a federal court with an unquestionably ripe DFR claim for abandoning the NIC is the very dangerous ground to which, in context, she was alluding to. That's what the Company attorneys took from her ruling and the NMB has concurred that no progress can be made unless USAPA accepts the NIC or a federal court grants immunity for the Company to negotiate for a list that has already been determined to be a violation of the union's DFR.

I'm starting to get this image in my mind of a few elderly AOL supporters, sitting around in their wheelchairs, at some assisted living center in Arizona, mumbling over and over essentially unintelligible drivel, having something to do, with a NIC. To which the staff responds by wheeling them off for their much needed colon cleaning's.

Might make a really funny SNL skit also. I remember them doing one about dismantling the set of the TV show "Startrek", as the stage crew is carting off all the prop scenery, the "Cast" is shouting orders to the crew to repel the ongoing "Klingon" attack, the scene then cuts to the "Cast" being carted off in straight jackets, still calling for the "Shields Up and Phasers ON"!


seajay

 

[767one]

I'm starting to get this image in my mind of a few elderly AOL supporters, sitting around in their wheelchairs, at some assisted living center in Arizona, mumbling over and over essentially unintelligible drivel, having something to do, with a NIC. To which the staff responds by wheeling them off for their much needed colon cleaning's.

Might make a really funny SNL skit also. I remember them doing one about dismantling the set of the TV show "Startrek", as the stage crew is carting off all the prop scenery, the "Cast" is shouting orders to the crew to repel the ongoing "Klingon" attack, the scene then cuts to the "Cast" being carted off in straight jackets, still calling for the "Shields Up and Phasers ON"!


seajay

Seajay,

The staff won't have to wheel them anywhere if somebody just shouts out "date of hire". Voila! Instant cleansing.

All the best!

Bob

 

[prechilill]

Seajay,

The staff won't have to wheel them anywhere if somebody just shouts out "date of hire". Voila! Instant cleansing.

All the best!

Bob

The next generation won't recognize the term "DOH" since it effectively died in mergers about two decades ago Bobby.

All the best!