Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Phoenix]

Wow. It's valentines day... That and the new pay raises seem to have everyone in such a cute lovey dovey mood. 🙂

 

[EyeInTheSky]

You better put your glasses on. That may be your wish but I don't think it's going to come true.


Phoenix airport: Our hub will survive American merger
by Ben Mutzabaugh, USA TODAY

Updated: 02/14/2013 09:49am

"Executives at US Airways have publicly stated that they have no intention of giving up their Phoenix passengers, even after they move some administrative jobs out of their Tempe headquarters building," the airport adds in its statement. "With such a strong demand for air service in Phoenix, Sky Harbor is a significant player in the airport arena and critically important to the industry."

"In my conversations with the leadership at US Airways, they have been very clear that Phoenix is critically important to the airline and they intend to keep Sky Harbor as a hub," Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton says in the release. "While other cities in the country may have had challenges in merger situations, they did not have the passenger traffic that we do here at one of the nation's top ten airports and that makes all the difference."

Sky Harbor officials also expressed hope that the merger could allow a bigger American to add overseas routes from Phoenix as it optimizes its international network.

Of course it's going to survive, but I suspect the base is going to get downsized at some point. BTW, I don't wish this on anyone, but then again I am a fair person that doesn't believe in stealing seniority either.

Later,
Eye

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Cleardirect said: "The east has boxed yourselves in with the C&BL. DOH. When the APA does not agree to DOH where does usapa go from there? usapa can't negotiate anything but DOH."

Not true. Read the CBL and get back to me.

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[Walmartgreeter]

You better put your glasses on. That may be your wish but I don't think it's going to come true.


Phoenix airport: Our hub will survive American merger
by Ben Mutzabaugh, USA TODAY

Updated: 02/14/2013 09:49am

"Executives at US Airways have publicly stated that they have no intention of giving up their Phoenix passengers, even after they move some administrative jobs out of their Tempe headquarters building," the airport adds in its statement. "With such a strong demand for air service in Phoenix, Sky Harbor is a significant player in the airport arena and critically important to the industry."

"In my conversations with the leadership at US Airways, they have been very clear that Phoenix is critically important to the airline and they intend to keep Sky Harbor as a hub," Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton says in the release. "While other cities in the country may have had challenges in merger situations, they did not have the passenger traffic that we do here at one of the nation's top ten airports and that makes all the difference."

Sky Harbor officials also expressed hope that the merger could allow a bigger American to add overseas routes from Phoenix as it optimizes its international network.

I will leave it up to someone else to dig up the quotes from Parker and Kirby about the PIT operation. They told politicians to their face they were not leaving. This does not mean PHX will be treated the same way, but them saying it means nothing.

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[snapthis]

Press conference just started

 

[traderjake]

At least the guys at AA and US knew what it was like to be chosen to work for a real airline.

Anyone who thinks US was a real airline has never been to ATL, DFW, or ORD.

That's what real airline looks like.

 

[nevergiveup]

Really?? Really REALLY??!!! You mean THIS time you will live with what an arbitrator decides?

GMAFB! We all know your tune by now. You will only live with an arbitrated solution if it is the one YOU want. Otherwise you will throw a hissy fit, stomp your feet, and tell anyone who will listen how unfair it is. (And by you, I mean USAPA and the collective east.)

But this time there will not be a statement to prevent it from happening, such as the one you agreed to in the transition agreement.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

Anyone who thinks US was a real airline has never been to ATL, DFW, or ORD.

That's what real airline looks like.

Whatever...all we know the pay and work environment was a whole lot better than what you guys have ever known.

Later,
Eye

 

[nevergiveup]

Care to wager? Think no one can see through all the USCABA treachery and lies? Every Judge has warned the scabs. Every single one. Did that modify their behavior any? Hell no. See you one again, in court.

Speculative at best!

 

[EyeInTheSky]

But this time there will not be a statement to prevent it from happening, such as the one you agreed to in the transition agreement.

Bingo! Apparently, the Westies never read that important paragraph.

Later,
Eye

 

[EastUS1]

Wow. It's valentines day... That and the new pay raises seem to have everyone in such a cute lovey dovey mood. 🙂

Indeed. The warmth and love in the air is palpable! 😉

 

[traderjake]

Whatever...all we know the pay and work environment was a whole lot better than what you guys have ever known.

You're living in the last century.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

You're living in the last century.

Nah. Not living in it, just remembering it fondly. 🙂

Later,
Eye

 

[EastUS1]

end_of_alpa, on 14 February 2013 - 08:56 AM, said: i'm sure you,Roger and John will be working extra hard (no pun intended) to suck up with the APA in the next few weeks.

You can bet your life on that.

Well....Best have your "Integrity Matters" t-shirts freshly pressed, wear your least worn out knee pads, and good luck to you. 😉

 

[end_of_alpa]

And I bet the Nicolau is in there as a starting point. The company is not going to risk litigation from a DFR that had proven merit. No LUP assures that we're hosed.

You just can't grasp it, can you.

US Airways/AMR, because of the MOU, NO LONGER HAVE ANY LIABILITY. NONE. Did you NOT read the MOU, I just posted the PERTINENT parts? There can not be a DFR any longer because, as I have instructed NUMEROUS times, A Hybrid 301/DFR claim is a two case in one claim....you have to prove liability for BOTH the Company for Breach of Contract and Union for DFR.....BOTH!

You CANNOT have one without the other. That IS BLACK LETTER LAW.