Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[flyboeing737]

You just can't grasp it, can you.

US Airways/AMR, because of the MOU, NO LONGER HAVE ANY LIABILITY. NONE. Did you NOT read the MOU, I just posted the PERTINENT parts? There can not be a DFR any longer because, as I have instructed NUMEROUS times, A Hybrid 301/DFR claim is a two case in one claim....you have to prove liability for BOTH the Company for Breach of Contract and Union for DFR.....BOTH!

You CANNOT have one without the other. That IS BLACK LETTER LAW.

Enjoy the NIC and keep dreaming.

 

[Zone5]

That's what court orders are for. Your scab union is the POR away from getting sued again whereby a judge will review the last 5 years worth of your fake unions behavior. Ripeness will be buried at the POR giing rise to en entirely different cause of action. What is the LUP again? Be ready to attempt to explain that. We all know it doesent exist but go ahead. You guys have made fools out of yourselves for so long I doubt you even recognize it anymore.

The POR won't "ripen" anything, the MOU (which the West overwhelmingly vote for) was specifically crafted to prevent the SLI portion of the "New" AMR-LCC JCBA from becoming an "issue" until after ratification. Relax there "bucko" you AOLers will have all the time in the world to litigate after you have been officially "damaged".


seajay

 

[flyboeing737]

The POR won't "ripen" anything, the MOU (which the West overwhelmingly vote for) was specifically crafted to prevent the SLI portion of the "New" AMR-LCC JCBA from becoming an "issue" until after ratification. Relax there "bucko" you AOLers will have all the time in the world to litigate after you have been officially "damaged".


seajay

LOL why didn't LLC withdraw their appeal to the circuit court? NIC is the list.

 

[Zone5]

You can bet your life on that.

Really! Too much information! With that much "sucking up" planned, you best stop by the" ramper room" and borrow a few pairs of knee pads from the cargo loading guys.


seajay

 

[nevergiveup]

LOL why didn't LLC withdraw their appeal to the circuit court? NIC is the list.

It's called......"CYA"

 

[cleardirect]

So you are accusing a respected senior arbitrator of some sort action against the US Air pilots for some nefarious reason? Wow.

Have you ever read the Nicolau Award entirely, or was it all you could do to hold it together until the CIRP arrived?

Audience: Is NGU making salient , legal points? Or is his hair on fire?

Of course they have to justify "nefarious" reasons. Otherwise the only answer left is it was the east's fault.

Like Wake was biased.
Kasher is losing his mind.
The NY court are biased.
The NC courts are biased.

 

[Phoenix]

Enjoy the NIC and keep dreaming.

Yes, Nic and dreaming are like strawberries and cream, like ham and eggs, salt and pepper shakers.... Like Mork and Mindy!

 

[cleardirect]

Of course it's going to survive, but I suspect the base is going to get downsized at some point. BTW, I don't wish this on anyone, but then again I am a fair person that doesn't believe in stealing seniority either.

Later,
Eye

Good. Stop trying to impose something you were never going to get and accept the arbitrated list.

 

[Zone5]

You better put your glasses on. That may be your wish but I don't think it's going to come true.


Phoenix airport: Our hub will survive American merger
by Ben Mutzabaugh, USA TODAY

Updated: 02/14/2013 09:49am

"Executives at US Airways have publicly stated that they have no intention of giving up their Phoenix passengers, even after they move some administrative jobs out of their Tempe headquarters building," the airport adds in its statement. "With such a strong demand for air service in Phoenix, Sky Harbor is a significant player in the airport arena and critically important to the industry."

"In my conversations with the leadership at US Airways, they have been very clear that Phoenix is critically important to the airline and they intend to keep Sky Harbor as a hub," Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton says in the release. "While other cities in the country may have had challenges in merger situations, they did not have the passenger traffic that we do here at one of the nation's top ten airports and that makes all the difference."

Sky Harbor officials also expressed hope that the merger could allow a bigger American to add overseas routes from Phoenix as it optimizes its international network.

Interesting article in the New York Times today:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/american-and-us-airways-said-to-vote-for-merger/

Regarding potential "post merger" moves, I noted the following:

"It is also unclear whether American needs all of its combined hubs. Analysts pointed out that Phoenix was at risk because of its proximity to Dallas, since it makes little sense to have two big hubs so close to each other."

Passengers in PHX who want to travel internationally are more than likely not going to be traveling nonstop!


seajay

 

[mrbreeze]

LOL why didn't LLC withdraw their appeal to the circuit court?

That will happen after the AA bk judge approves the merger.
breeze

 

[Phoenix]

Indeed. The warmth and love in the air is palpable! 😉

Palpable.... Please don't use words that are above the understanding of the average sand rover... Such words will no doubt be grasped upon as additional proof that the Nic is the only accepted system seniority list. 🙂

 

[flyboeing737]

That will happen after the AA bk judge approves the merger.
breeze

Really what is your source? USAPA?

 

[cleardirect]

Cleardirect said: "The east has boxed yourselves in with the C&BL. DOH. When the APA does not agree to DOH where does usapa go from there? usapa can't negotiate anything but DOH."

Not true. Read the CBL and get back to me.

Greeter

I have read it. Are you now saying that the usapa C&BL does not require and demand DOH?

I thought that was the entire purpose of usapa. That has been the argument from many of your buddies that usapa can't use anything other than DOH.

Changing your tune when the facts don't work out for you?

 

[flyboeing737]

Yes, Nic and dreaming are like strawberries and cream, like ham and eggs, salt and pepper shakers.... Like Mork and Mindy!

Mindy was Hot.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Palpable.... Please don't use words that are above the understanding of the average sand rover... Such words will no doubt be grasped upon as additional proof that the Nic is the only accepted system seniority list. 🙂

Palpable: "eligible for consideration as the new Pope"

Greeter