Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Claxon]

You guys are dumber than I thought.

Those are the guys running the recall effort and it's on the front page of the web site, we've already got 25% of the CLT pilots signed.

The west never had a recall effort, er, or did they.

"Holland replaces Captain Roger Cox, who was recalled from office by the MEC in January."

http://www2.alpa.org...x?DocumentID=86

 

[EastUS1]

I do think we should abide by the agreement we made with the West .....

Good for you. The only agreement/promise I've ever given is that I'll never vote in favor of anything containing the nic stench.

 

[EastUS1]

East on east violence. Now the entertainment can begin.

"Simple minds are easily amused" .........Just follow the dots............and repeat........................Just follow the dots............and repeat............... 😉

 

[cleardirect]

Let's review.

DAL/NWA. ALPA carrier merged have a contract.
UAL/CAL ALPA carrier merged have a contract
AMR. APA carrier got a contract.
SWA/AirTran. ALPA/SWAPPA carrier merged have a contract.

Usapa. Failed

 

[EastUS1]

Your concern for others that their names would be posted on the Internet is precious.

But before you get a warm felling from your noble protection.

I had no thought that such as yourself would even begin to understand my thinking there, since you're clearly incapable of processing any such notions yourself. You fail to disappoint yet again. Look up the word "Principle" if you've say, ten spare years of life to meditate on even the concept, even then, with still little likely hope of it ever sinking in.

In the highly unlikely event you ever mature into some semblance of a grown "man", you'll perhaps someday realize that one doesn't properly base his actions on the presumed reward of some "warm felling". Such can routinely be had by incontinent children. Perhaps you should seek out mutually comprehensible conversation with your peer group there.

 

[Phoenix]

Same old argument. Not now. We can't change leadership at this critical time.

Where was that opinion when you voted for usapa?

No its not the same old argument, and its really none of your business unless you finally took recall here in CLT.

ALPA was certifiable irrational loony, grossly failing in their representational responsabilities, and blatantly acting in opposition to its members and even against national's own self interests.

I personally don't think a change in CLT will affect the outcome of the Dallas MOU, but it puts the recall wanabees at risk, more so than the pilots they want to represent. They don't have any concrete, obvious, or persuasive reasons to oust the reps they are suggesting we recall. Just generalized opportunism about general discontent with the lack of progress that we all share. Now that progress is ripe they are jumping into the scene and stand to look like the Caped Maruader trying to steal some thunder or worse if anything goes wrong then they own it.

If they really believe things are dire, and the CLT reps are causing great harm, then by all means they should do everything they can to jump into the middle of it all and insert themselves into the fray. Personally I think the train has left the station and they will look silly trying to jump in front of it to announce they will get us all out of the log jam.

 

[Claxon]

Yup. It's finally a done deal!

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Posted about 6 months ago by luvthe9:

"Has anyone heard from 767Jetz? how is that UAL CO contract going? He has numbers here and UAL. Which recall should he take"

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Sorry to disappoint you luv. I know you missed stalking me and all. And just like THAT, there are thousands more pilots (fo's) making more than your coveted Airbus captains. Heck even our A320 fo's are making about what you captains do. So for every east pilot still waiting for that fourth stripe, you have given up over $100,000.00 and counting. 100K+++! Brilliant move.

What now luv? You and Clax and Hate all squawking about the discontent between CAL and UAL pilots. Here are the numbers:

10,000 eligible voters.

If 80% of UAL voted yes, that's 4400 pilots..... Total yes is 6800, that leaves 2400 CAL yes's out of 4500 is......53%.....the majority.

I guess the UAL and CAL pilots came together after all.

SLI should be interesting. I'll be back to discuss that in about 9 months. Then we can compare notes again.

See ya...

Maybe you should wait until your seniority list is worked out before you bang your mini snare drum?

Now we pilots at US Airways know you UAL pilots have experts on seniority arbitration's.
During one of the many times US Airways was talking merger with UAL, your fellow UAL pilots were helping with the nicolau award with your "neutral arbiters". Brucia, Gillen, Rice and Prater. Correct me if I am wrong please. All of those pilots that were involved in helping nicolau at that time, are they not now UAL pilots?

 

[Claxon]

Yup. It's finally a done deal!

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Posted about 6 months ago by luvthe9:

"Has anyone heard from 767Jetz? how is that UAL CO contract going? He has numbers here and UAL. Which recall should he take"

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If 80% of UAL voted yes, that's 4400 pilots..... Total yes is 6800, that leaves 2400 CAL yes's out of 4500 is......53%.....the majority.

I guess the UAL and CAL pilots came together after all.

SLI should be interesting. I'll be back to discuss that in about 9 months. Then we can compare notes again.

See ya...

UAL with CAL equals most scab pilots working at the same airline. Looking up america west pilots on the list, I understand your kinship instincts. All of the pilots want to be just like you. (satire)

http://scabsr.us/new_page_4.htm

http://wikileaks-press.org:81/file/airline-pilot-scab-list.pdf

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Let's review.

DAL/NWA. ALPA carrier merged have a contract.
UAL/CAL ALPA carrier merged have a contract
AMR. APA carrier got a contract.
SWA/AirTran. ALPA/SWAPPA carrier merged have a contract.

Usapa. Failed

Oh well, look at it this way, 4 carriers you can apply to!

 

[luvthe9]

We're on the same page per the recall business. I've no argument that's even the least bit supportive of this BS recall, with it's nebulous, but highly "scented" agenda, quite the contrary in fact. All I'm saying here is regardless of one's opponents perhaps being at their perceived slimiest, well...such is never an excuse for descending to their level....Period! Doing so costs one's self far too much sir. In terms of this discussion: Singling out people because someone foolishly posted up their names for "consideration" isn't appropriate in my mind. In any case: I'll deny no one a jump seat that's fairly and legally entitled to one, ever.

You know what, your right I just can't stand scum like "Traitor" and his group that are trying to foul things up at a crucial time. My bad!!!

 

[EastUS1]

You know what, your right I just can't stand scum like "Traitor" and his group that are trying to foul things up at a crucial time. My bad!!!

Understood sir. Tempers can run high with this type of crap. To me, well; there's just no sense in damaging ourselves, as people, in the process. On the good side? = I sincerely doubt that the whole recall BS will amount to much of anything. I've found discussions sometimes stopped cold by just a reference to the "Caped Marauder's" enthusiasm for it. 😉

 

[luvthe9]

In closing, we want to thank you for your engagement and continued support. We encourage you to stay informed to the best of your ability and we will make every attempt to make sure you are kept up to date with current information within the constraints of the NDA.
In Unity,
CLT Chairman Bill McKee
CLT Vice Chairman Steve Crimi
CLT Vice Chairman DeWitt Ingram
DCA Chairman Joe Stein
DCA Vice Chairman Pete Dugstad
PHL Chairman Steve "Spike" Szpyrka
PHL Vice Chairman Mike Gillies
PHL Vice Chairman Jamie Weidner Glad to see everyone working together.

 

[Claxon]

HA!!!! Eastern Scab democracy at its finest! Nobody has a right to disagree with anything the Nazi machine believes. You guys are pathetic. OVERPAID and pathetic.

Please refer to previous post.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Understood sir. Tempers can run high with this type of crap. On the good side? = I sincerely doubt that the whole recall BS will amount to much of anything though.

Agreed, the "silent majority" are shakeing their heads, but still it has been going on how long? And they still haven't pulled the trigger, TRADER and CHIP need to put up or shut-up, the latter pleez, look I know some disagree with certain mngmnt styles, but then they "WON'T RUN FOR OFFICE" step up or step out of the way, trader and chip in my book are for better words, “If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes”! MM!

 

[Metroyet]

ALPA Delivered BIG TIME for UAL/CAL. USAPA? Closing out 2012 stuck in the mud with only the POW section of a new contract settled. At this rate, rampers will make more than the pilots at some point.