luvthe9
Veteran
- Joined
- Aug 30, 2002
- Messages
- 9,464
- Reaction score
- 14,119
Sure is binding. Not
Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion
- Thread starter Admin
- Start date
- Status
Sure is binding. Not
traderjake
Veteran
- Joined
- Aug 30, 2002
- Messages
- 5,669
- Reaction score
- 9,308
Unsubscribe | View in your web browser | Forward to a Friend
VOTE “NO, I AM OPPOSED TO THE RECALL”. BY NOT VOTING, YOU AGREE TO THE RECALL.
Fellow Charlotte Pilots,
The CLT recall election is soon closing. We ask you to please log on to https://www.BallotPoint.com/USAPA/ and vote against the recall of all three of your Domicile Representatives...............................................................Moving on, we would like to address the continued meddling and support of the recall by the Officers. A recent “Officer’s Message” you received contained allegations of violations of USAPA communications policy by members of the PIC. Frankly, we were shocked after reading the “Officer’s Message” and are very frustrated by their continued attempt to influence the CLT recall attempt.
Please consider the following:
Fellow Charlotte Pilots,
The CLT recall election is soon closing. We ask you to please log on to https://www.BallotPoint.com/USAPA/ and vote against the recall of all three of your Domicile Representatives...............................................................Moving on, we would like to address the continued meddling and support of the recall by the Officers. A recent “Officer’s Message” you received contained allegations of violations of USAPA communications policy by members of the PIC. Frankly, we were shocked after reading the “Officer’s Message” and are very frustrated by their continued attempt to influence the CLT recall attempt.
Please consider the following:
- It was the Officer’s decision to force us to use an outside vendor to communicate to you at a significant expense. We have every right to communicate to you unencumbered by the Officer’s attempted censorship.
N924PS
Veteran
- Joined
- May 9, 2004
- Messages
- 2,036
- Reaction score
- 1,529
Well JS put "his money on Doug Parker." So far Parker has been a winner. Running a profitable on time airline. Saved over $700 Million dollars in pilot labor costs while watching East and West struggle over Section 22 and the Nicolau Award...
Mike Cleary.... not so much.
luvthe9
Veteran
- Joined
- Aug 30, 2002
- Messages
- 9,464
- Reaction score
- 14,119
When a bunch of girls cave and give the most concessions in airline history, it was bound to happen. Did you vote yes? Bet you did
luvthe9
Veteran
- Joined
- Aug 30, 2002
- Messages
- 9,464
- Reaction score
- 14,119
Unsubscribe | View in your web browser | Forward to a Friend
VOTE “NO, I AM OPPOSED TO THE RECALL”. BY NOT VOTING, YOU AGREE TO THE RECALL.
Fellow Charlotte Pilots,
The CLT recall election is soon closing. We ask you to please log on to https://www.BallotPoint.com/USAPA/ and vote against the recall of all three of your Domicile Representatives...............................................................Moving on, we would like to address the continued meddling and support of the recall by the Officers. A recent “Officer’s Message” you received contained allegations of violations of USAPA communications policy by members of the PIC. Frankly, we were shocked after reading the “Officer’s Message” and are very frustrated by their continued attempt to influence the CLT recall attempt.
Please consider the following:
These guys think it's "meddling" by Officer's that they can't use union resources and have to pay for their own campaign.
- It was the Officer’s decision to force us to use an outside vendor to communicate to you at a significant expense. We have every right to communicate to you unencumbered by the Officer’s attempted censorship.
Last chance to back Chippie Munn. Go for it!
Portly Dorman
Senior
This group has had the bully pulpit for so long they thing they are immune to the rules.
Typical east think, the rules don't apply to me. Remember the sytem board election?? Got beat by their own rules so they reran the elect.
You can tell they are lying, their lips are moving.
traderjake
Veteran
- Joined
- Aug 30, 2002
- Messages
- 5,669
- Reaction score
- 9,308
I can see you're really stressed over the Recall.
Don't worry, my guess is your boys will squeak by.
Portly Dorman
Senior
Poor Courtney-- New snack machines in the PHX crew room and he's been asked to stay out....
How about the B scale that American pilots introduced to the pilot profession?
What about the proliferation of regional flying that APA allowed years ago?
What about the frequent flyer miles program that Crandall introduced? This allowed free flights for anything, including credit card toilet paper purchases, which APA pilots gained the most from because they were most needy of the use of it due to their containment of waste?
Yes, this all coming from one that is classified in the pilot profession, as among those that became a whole new addition to the invertebrate species.
traderjake
Veteran
- Joined
- Aug 30, 2002
- Messages
- 5,669
- Reaction score
- 9,308
See how we don't get crew meals his distess understandable.
N924PS
Veteran
- Joined
- May 9, 2004
- Messages
- 2,036
- Reaction score
- 1,529
I voted YES.
Huh? Who is puching holes in clouds at a buck twenty five an hour at A scale rates?
AA and APA Never did that..
Republic is at a buck nineteen and skywest is at a buck twelve and hour... Take a good look in there mirror there son...
Who has 3 our of five departures at their company outsourced? That would be "U"
As a percentage of mainline asm's, AA/APA is/was the worst, but will get better with relaxation of scope...
Crandall was a visionary in that regard. He kicked ass, and I'm not sure why you're bringing him up.. Jealousy perhaps?
Invertabtates? Thats rich. When has the east group stood for anything besides the opposition to the NIC?
Why? Just curious..
You have a short term recollection of history.
"When has the east group stood for anything besides the opposition to the NIC?"
You sky notices have stapled every pilot group you merged with to the bottom of your lists, and you mention opposition from the East pilots.
"The war started back in 1983, when a growth imperative gripped major airlines as they raced to compete with low-fare startups. Crandall convinced the pilots that the airline couldn't buy planes to add routes unless new pilots could be hired at drastically reduced pay scales. It seemed like another brilliant Crandall win-win at the time. The pilots who were then at American got to keep their pay, and the new planes offered them opportunities to move more quickly from co-pilot to captain status. Meanwhile, with each new cut-rate pilot, Crandall lowered his average labor costs, all the better to finance the debt incurred in buying the new jets"
Your recollection of history is short term, for your convenience.
http://money.cnn.com...25523/index.htm
"In 1964, American Airlines contracted for Apache Airlines to replace it
in serving Douglas, Arizona - this was the first “air taxi replacement agreement”.
http://weber.ucsd.ed...apter_oct06.pdf
" American Airlines' program was a modification of a never-realized concept from 1979 that would have given special fares to frequent customers. It was quickly followed later that year by programs from United Airlines (Mileage Plus) and Delta Air Lines (SkyMiles), and in 1982 from British Airways (Executive Club).[sup][2]"[/sup]
http://en.wikipedia....t-flyer_program
http://web.mit.edu/a...T PERSONNEL.htm
Air Cal, ratioed. TWA, BK'd and with no place to go was ratio'd with about half stapled. Trans Carib ratio'd. Reno? The most senior captain had 7 years seniority and made more money as an F/O at AA. Where do you come up with this stuff?
Is there more wrong with you besides the obvious?
We're a screwed up pilot group.. I get that. APA has a lot of warts, but what point are you trying to make here Claxon?
LCC/USAPA has by far been the biggest and longest lasting black eye the professional pilot profession has seen since the Wright brothers.
Is there more wrong with you besides the obvious?
We're a screwed up pilot group.. I get that. APA has a lot of warts, but what point are you trying to make here Claxon?
LCC/USAPA has by far been the biggest and longest lasting black eye the professional pilot profession has seen since the Wright brothers.
- Status
