Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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You'll see a challenge coming up because of the actions of the PIC.

It's a free country.

 

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There's nothing illegal about using the Nicolau. That's a ridiculous presumption that our own lawyer doesn't even support.

You mean Harper?

 

[EastUS1]

There's nothing illegal about using the Nicolau.

Ah!...Nothing like hearing a crescendo of furiously flashing pom poms, tearing the very air in support of the nic, coming from an "east" pilot. 😉

 

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Ah!...Nothing like hearing a crescendo of furiously flashing pom poms for the nic coming from an "east" pilot. 😉

He's not East.

 

[EastUS1]

He's not East.

Ya' think!? 😉

 

[luvthe9]

CLT REPS WERE RE ELECTED BY A 71.88 NO VOTE FOR THE RECALL

ALMOST 1200 PILOTS VOTED IN THE RECALL ELECTION

APPEARS THAT ONLY THE ORIGINAL PETITION SIGNERS REQUESTING THE RECALL VOTED YES FOR THE RECALL , Sure sorry Danny boy!!!!
miserably failed. NOW THE RECALL OF HUMMEL STARTS.!!

 

[traderjake]

2013 CLT Domicile Officer Recall Ballot​

Official Results​

Ballot ending: 02/05/2013 14:00:00 (Eastern)​

The ballots were cast and tallied as follows.​

TOTAL​

Are you in favor of recalling CLT Chairman, Bill McKee? (please check one)

Total​

Percent​

Yes, I am in favor of a recall

333​

28.13​

No, I am opposed to a recall

851​

71.88​

Total

1184​

Are you in favor of recalling CLT Vice Chairman, Steve Crimi? (please check one)

Total​

Percent​

Yes, I am in favor of a recall

377​

31.81​

No, I am opposed to a recall

808​

68.19​

Total

1185​

Are you in favor of recalling CLT Vice Chairman, DeWitt Ingram? (please check one)

Total​

Percent​

Yes, I am in favor of a recall

341​

28.78​

No, I am opposed to a recall

844​

71.22​

Total

1185​

• There were 1367 eligible voters, of which 1186 cast a ballot, representing 86.8% of the eligible voters.
• Of the 1186 ballots cast, 248 (20.9%) were by phone, and 938 (79.1%) were by web.
• There were 0 ballots cast in which the voter did not make a selection.
• There were 36 ballots declared void.

Congratulations to the CLT Reps.

 

[luvthe9]

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Congratulations to the CLT Reps.

Yes, Now go thank them for the extra money they got for you that HUMMEL did not want to try for!!!!!!! and remember ALPO SUX.

 

[traderjake]

Yes, Now go thank them for the extra money they got for you that HUMMEL did not want to try for!!!!!!! and remember ALPO SUX.

We got more money because the guys with leverage, APA, got more money.

Thank you APA.

How long before the CLT Reps come out against MOU 2?

 

[cleardirect]

Naaah, It's official YOU LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a bunch of idiots that voted to recall the boys that got them MORE money.

Hey idiot boy. You mean the guys (the entire BPR) that got us more money and you are voting against the MOU. If you get your way there is no money.

Is it really be possible that you are this stupid?

 

[cleardirect]

CLT REPS WERE RE ELECTED BY A 71.88 NO VOTE FOR THE RECALL

ALMOST 1200 PILOTS VOTED IN THE RECALL ELECTION

APPEARS THAT ONLY THE ORIGINAL PETITION SIGNERS REQUESTING THE RECALL VOTED YES FOR THE RECALL , Sure sorry Danny boy!!!!
miserably failed. NOW THE RECALL OF HUMMEL STARTS.!!

How was it you defended the CLT boys?

Oh yeah. It is a critical time for our union and now is not the time to change horses.

 

[traderjake]

....and remember ALPO SUX.

ALPA did sux, USAPA is worse.

It's the pilots, not the name on the Union Hall door.

 

[luvthe9]

We got more money because the guys with leverage, APA, got more money.

Thank you APA.

How long before the CLT Reps come out against MOU 2?

You just can't admit the truth, but no surprise there.


Bottom line?....some have said that it is a shame that we, (USAirways pilots) are signing on to a “bankruptcy contract”; but that isn’t true. In fact we are signing on to less than the bankrupt American pilots are getting, in every single area. The MOU contains no guarantees for seniority integration, minimum airframes, minimum block hours, no provisions to preserve our attrition, a certainty that the merged airline will shrink and that the USAirways pilots will suffer, no equity in the New American....shall I go on?

The pay protections are temporary at best and the end of USAirways International flying is a very real option, by the flawed language of the MOU. This document gives management carte blanche to move flying around, furlough, merger into a single carrier, or not...all completely at their discretion.

In return, we get a temporary pay raise, which is substandard in the extreme and is delayed, unlike our bankrupt merger partners, whose pay is already up. We enhance the value of their equity stake in the New American and we get zero.

If this MOU is voted in, we will have demonstrated that Right and Wrong are heavily outweighed by Fear and Anxiety.

The last time a Union sent out the desperate sounding hyperbole, it was the last APA President, days before he was ousted. This is what one gets, when a bunch of wannabe management pilots get ahold of a union. Hope you guys are right and I am completely wrong about this MOU; but I doubt it. It will take a year or so, for the reality of what you guys have done to sink in, (assuming this turd passes). Then, it will be far too late.

Again, hope you’re right and I am wrong. Mostly, I hope this MOU fails and that someone else gets to renegotiate the terms; because Gary and the NAC have failed.

Good luck to us all.



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[traderjake]

You just can't admit the truth, but no surprise there.

You can't see the truth, no surprise here.

How long before the CLT Reps come out against the MOU?

 

[end_of_alpa]

2013 CLT Domicile Officer Recall Ballot​

Official Results​

Ballot ending: 02/05/2013 14:00:00 (Eastern)​

The ballots were cast and tallied as follows.​

TOTAL​

Are you in favor of recalling CLT Chairman, Bill McKee? (please check one)

Total​

Percent​

Yes, I am in favor of a recall

333​

28.13​

No, I am opposed to a recall

851​

71.88​

Total

1184​

Are you in favor of recalling CLT Vice Chairman, Steve Crimi? (please check one)

Total​

Percent​

Yes, I am in favor of a recall

377​

31.81​

No, I am opposed to a recall

808​

68.19​

Total

1185​

Are you in favor of recalling CLT Vice Chairman, DeWitt Ingram? (please check one)

Total​

Percent​

Yes, I am in favor of a recall

341​

28.78​

No, I am opposed to a recall

844​

71.22​

Total

1185​

• There were 1367 eligible voters, of which 1186 cast a ballot, representing 86.8% of the eligible voters.
• Of the 1186 ballots cast, 248 (20.9%) were by phone, and 938 (79.1%) were by web.
• There were 0 ballots cast in which the voter did not make a selection.
• There were 36 ballots declared void.

Congratulations to the CLT Reps.

Let's do it again!!!