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Whew! "When an outside factor beyond our control changes one of the factors we must readjust our thinking to account for the change in information."..? Ya' know Pilgrim?...You take the longest time and most verbage I've ever seen outside of career politcians to tap dance around the fact that you were just, flat-out WRONG! 😉

He wasn't WRONG! Judge Silver had it right at first(through his reading of the tea leaves) and then She got it WRONG! ;-)
 
What "earlier rulings"? I don't remember but one ruling, but many hearings.
Sorry my terms are likely wrong. Back when USAPA was filing for an MTD because the Ninth had determined that the matter wasn't ripe, Silver responded to that by dismissing the MTD and make a statement to the effect that this case was not only ripe, but this was the exact kind of case that the DJ was designed to provide relief for. In other words she disagreed with USAPA that believed that the Company was entitled to relief, even in the light of the Ninth's remanding of Adddington and thus had determined from the information she had that the Company was at risk if they accepted or if they refused to accept USAPA's proposed modifications to the arbitrated list. Since a court can't a company immunity from future liability of harming another party (west pilots thus stripping them of their rights), she had to make a ruling on counts 1 or 2. Since Wake and Bybee had already made this determination for her based on the merits and the Ninth did not address the thorny issues related to seniority, it was all within logical reasoning that her only option to grant relief was on Count 1. Of course she changed her final ruling to dodge the question rather than actually answer it and proving the relief she stated the Company was entiled to. That's why the Company's appeal has merit. They are entitled to relief and Silver didn't offer anything more than they already had - a Hobson's choice.
 
He wasn't WRONG! Judge Silver had it right at first(through his reading of the tea leaves) and then She got it WRONG! ;-)


I was wrong once. Ya see, I thought I was wrong, but it turned out I was right after all, which of course means I was indeed wrong, once.


seajay
 
I was wrong once. Ya see, I thought I was wrong, but it turned out I was right after all, which of course means I was indeed wrong, once.


seajay

You're wrong........ I mean you're right.......I mean......... Oh, nevermind.

Bean
 
BOHICA! Where's my vaseline?

The west said no to your Vaseline aka protections and restrictions. Don't be too surprised when the APA has a similar response. Nobody wants to get boned by your DOH.

Why don't you try LOS with some lipstick and a nice dress.



Bean
 
Sorry my terms are likely wrong. Back when USAPA was filing for an MTD because the Ninth had determined that the matter wasn't ripe, Silver responded to that by dismissing the MTD and make a statement to the effect that this case was not only ripe, but this was the exact kind of case that the DJ was designed to provide relief for. In other words she disagreed with USAPA that believed that the Company was entitled to relief, even in the light of the Ninth's remanding of Adddington and thus had determined from the information she had that the Company was at risk if they accepted or if they refused to accept USAPA's proposed modifications to the arbitrated list. Since a court can't a company immunity from future liability of harming another party (west pilots thus stripping them of their rights), she had to make a ruling on counts 1 or 2. Since Wake and Bybee had already made this determination for her based on the merits and the Ninth did not address the thorny issues related to seniority, it was all within logical reasoning that her only option to grant relief was on Count 1. Of course she changed her final ruling to dodge the question rather than actually answer it and proving the relief she stated the Company was entiled to. That's why the Company's appeal has merit. They are entitled to relief and Silver didn't offer anything more than they already had - a Hobson's choice.
That B!TCH! (VBG!!)
 
The west said no to your Vaseline aka protections and restrictions. Don't be too surprised when the APA has a similar response. Nobody wants to get boned by your DOH.

Why don't you try LOS with some lipstick and a nice dress.



Bean
Hey, Hey!!! You two.....GET A ROOM!
 
I'm in a particularly GREAT MOOD because of the latest announcement:

THE SPORTS ILLUSTRATED SWIMSUIT 2013 ISSUE IS OUT!!!

Hubba Hubba.

This concludes the latest public service announce and life changing events.

Carry on.
 
Hello APA, later USAPA.

I look forward to seeing the for lease sign on 200 East Woodlawn Road, Suite 250, Charlotte, NC 28217
 
I'm in a particularly GREAT MOOD because of the latest announcement:

THE SPORTS ILLUSTRATED 2013 ISSUE IS OUT!!!

Hubba Hubba.

This concludes the latest public service announce and life changing events.

Carry on.

Don't miss the cover model body paint photos on line (17 of them). Wow.
 
You helped make this pilot group despised and the laughing stock of the industry.

Thanks for the interest in my personal life.

Have you and luvthe9 scheduled the next meeting of my fan club?
How'd you know??? We found out that the movie "Majic Mike" was written with you specifically in mind.

"Is that a snow pea in your pocket or are you just happy to see us???"
 
Don't miss the cover model body paint photos on line (17 of them). Wow.
I read it for the intelligent sports articles!!!

You nasty boy!!!!

(Wish I could paint like that....or is that pant???)
 
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