Defining Business Casual

EMBFA

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I was looking at the latest About US. I always get a kick out of "About US" and it's third grade school newspaper reading level. I also enjoy the spin. It's not done well like Attache's Your Turn, it's just entertaining to read propaganda from people who appear to know less about my job and our industry than I do, but believe the opposite.

I read with great interest the main article Making US A Better Business Casual Airline. As I suspected, looks like alot of casual, no business and no brand. Apparently a meeting was had to discuss the brand. No one I know knew anything about the meeting. I thought maybe I had missed the email until I read the article. As far as flight attendants go, US Airways has found about six of them that they find agreeable and recycle for these things over and over. They are the same ones that are at the airplane dedications and provide "I Make US Fly" type quotes in About US about this and that. Bill from the west, Audrey from the east, yawn yawn yawn.

Alot of our customers on here have been wondering about the product enhancements that were promised in the desperate sounding email from Tempe. Here's some highlights that I thought some of you without access to it might find intersting. Words in quotes are thiers, negative diatribe is my own.

Envoy Class- The experience will apparently be "uniquely American" (I assume the country, not the airline) that "travelers seek out on an American carrier." The cynic in me sees this as Tempe doesn't know much about fine dining and doesn't care to find out. So I expect we will be serving cheeseburgers in our premium international cabin and claiming patriotism. Focus for food will be "quality over quantity"- I just read this as less food, how about you? There is also mention of trading "fluff for quality"- big cheeseburger, less amenities?

Economy Class- Upgrade coach meals, returning to traditional tray service instead of US Airways much joked about "meal in a box."

Buy On Board- "Roll out better quality fresh meals and expanded snack options. Also, provision greater quantities on board." Sounds like they will actually change the items and we'll also be hawking Pringles and such. At least it will be more in line with other airlines buy-on-board programs. Five years of chips and salsa and the scary Christo sandwich might finally be over.

Premium Beverage Test- Is anyone out there wishing they could get specialty teas and energy drinks on US? Or a glass of "restaurant level"wine? And buy it? Well US says you do! There isn't much detail on this, but it just looks like more sales and advertising to me. You'll probably see a 15 minute video proclaiming the virtues of Celestial Seasonings or Full Throttle and maybe an ad on the seatback in front of you. These items will probably be stored in overhead bins or under your seat, or just not catered at all.

US Airways Club- "Upgrade food and beverage choices and make them consistent with in-flight offerings." I don't really know much about the Clubs, but if improving it is getting it in line with the cabin service they must be pretty bad? What, does each club have one pillow, granola bars but no Cape Cod chips?

Travel Like Travelers program- part time employees will be sent on trips (hey look! Bill and Audrey!) and report back. No explanation as to why not just sit down with, well, your actual customers who pay money. Must be too expensive to arrange.

Inflight Handling devices- sounds like credit cards will be accepted on board as well as cash, not instead of as previously suggested. I guess this is progress, but I don't see flight attendants getting on board with this nor do I expect an airline that can't get a coffee pot lid on every airplane to have a functioning one of these on every airplane. It also implies more inflight sales which I feel customers and staff have already revolted against.

Service Standard Training- Sounds like we will all go through (Lower Your) Service Standard training in the beginning of next year (similar to this years (dis)Integration training). I don't expect we will be learning etiquette or hiding our wispys with this crowd. It should be entertaining to say the least.

On a serious note though, let me be the first to officially say that this is a dreadful mistake- forcing non-required propaganda training during stalled contract negotiations and all time low morale. This is another one of thier terrible ideas in the making, and it will backfire terribly, liking having an opposite effect. Just my opinion!

So, what does business casual mean? "A more approachable and friendly attitude and demeanor" says old standby Bill, and some res agent thinks it means not using customer's last names but thier first. Friendly is a word used over and over, and it is stressed that the main point (actually, the only point I could find) is good customer service. So, folks, just be nice and friendly. Computer systems, on-time performance, and onboard product do not matter, just be nice. It costs the company nothing, and when it goes bad they can blame you and say you weren't nice enough. Business casual, to this reader, means hope that both your customer and employee are stupid and need US more than US needs them. Just be nice, and more importantly, and at all cost- cheap.
 
You can purchase meals in the Clubs that are similar to buy on board, but in the $10 range. Other than that, you have complimentary sodas, juices, water; $5.00 booze (but Bud Light is $4!); salty and/or spicy snack mix; pretzels; Biscoffs; and in the morning, yogurt and muffins. So yeah, not much to choose from. A snack basket spread, but there are still glasses in the East (Clubs). :lol:
 
Agree with YOU wholeheartedly. I respect what many may perceive as your relentless "pissing and moaning" and in your face Bi*ching. I love it because YOU DON'T SUGAR COAT IT......and I would work with You in a heartbeat. (It's the people that have NO Opinion or the ones Refusing To Open Their EYES that I despise!)
 
Somebody already did save you and you still dont' care nor are grateful by any stretch of the imagination! You can leave now..and save yourself if you so choose.
If this shiithole operation is your idea of saved, I wish the powers that be had left us to our own fate. Your half of this nightmare has only made a bad thing worse!
 
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So, what does business casual mean? "A more approachable and friendly attitude and demeanor" says old standby Bill, and some res agent thinks it means not using customer's last names but thier first. ...

Oh this is awful. Whoever came up with the grandiose idea that an employee of a business should refer to customers (those they don't personally know) by first name, as if they're best friends, needs to be shot.

My lawyer, who knows me pretty well, refers to me as Mr. R, while debt collectors and telemarketers who use computers to dial phone numbers to save time, ask for "Jim". So, if you don't know me personally and I'm the customer and you call me by my first name, I'm going to treat you like the scumbag debt collector/telemarketer and pretend like you don't exist.

Where is Miss Manners? Did she die?
 
Oh this is awful. Whoever came up with the grandiose idea that an employee of a business should refer to customers (those they don't personally know) by first name, as if they're best friends, needs to be shot.

My lawyer, who knows me pretty well, refers to me as Mr. R, while debt collectors and telemarketers who use computers to dial phone numbers to save time, ask for "Jim". So, if you don't know me personally and I'm the customer and you call me by my first name, I'm going to treat you like the scumbag debt collector/telemarketer and pretend like you don't exist.

Where is Miss Manners? Did she die?

AMEN! The last time I had to speak with customer "service" in India, I was asked, "May I call you Jim?" My reply was "You may call me Mr. Jones."
His response, "Thank you, Mr. Jim. Now yada, yada, yada." My reply, "My friends call me Jim. You and I are not ever going to be on each other's Christmas card list. You may call me Mr. Jones."

He tried one more time to call me Jim, until I asked to speak with a supervisor. He apparently caught on then.

Unless a business relationship has been on-going for years, it should never be conducted in the first person. And, then only if, the customer requests that you use their first name.
 
As far as flight attendants go, US Airways has found about six of them that they find agreeable and recycle for these things over and over. They are the same ones that are at the airplane dedications and provide "I Make US Fly" type quotes in About US about this and that. Bill from the west, Audrey from the east, yawn yawn yawn.

I attended the meeting in PHL. I assure you the above does not describe me! I was glad to be able to share the concerns I hear from our Elites, I usually ask them, when I work F/C. Will it go any where, that remains to be seen.
 
<SNIP> Travel Like Travelers program- part time employees will be sent on trips (hey look! Bill and Audrey!) and report back. No explanation as to why not just sit down with, well, your actual customers who pay money. Must be too expensive to arrange.
Apparently, Tempe feels that FFOCUS is a waste of time.

Another example of the “we know betterâ€￾ arrogance.
 
Somebody already did save you and you still dont' care nor are grateful by any stretch of the imagination! You can leave now..and save yourself if you so choose.

I'm Sorry...Who Saved Whom? You Would Be In The SH#tter If You Did Not Merge With Us!! How Much Profit Did The West Side Make In The Last Couple Of Years? NONE..ZILCH!! ZIPPO!! The East Side Has Made ALL The Profit And Hence Is Keeping Your A@@ With A Pay Check!! :down: :down:
 
I was looking at the latest About US. I always get a kick out of "About US" and it's third grade school newspaper reading level. I also enjoy the spin.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything about your post, EMBFA! You're right about the spin that can be found in "About US"! Sometimes the spin is so much I get dizzy and feel like I am going to barf!

I hope that East Flight Attendants settle for nothing less than the vacation time we currently have on the West contract. Heck, lets stand together and negotiate for at least three MORE weeks! Let me just be honest that the vacation time away from the asylum is probably the ONLY thing that allows me to retain any symblance of sanity.