Delta Labor Relations thread.

topDawg said:
Dude I have always said I try to find what is fair for both sides. 
 
One day when I finally move on to management I plan on doing the same. I feel like most management that has worked on the floor/line then move up do the same. 
 
 
Also a big fan of working with labor, not vs labor. Its the same team in my eyes. Same reason I don't play the Delta vs this airline or that airline game. Airline labor is all on the same team at the end of the day. You guys sign a s**t contract you can bet it is heading for us and United. Industry average and all that.
Look I know history has a Beach for a wife but I really don't believe those guys are going to bring back a s**t agreement for either group. But it's going to be up to the voters to decide what's really s**t or not?

But there will "always" be no voters even if you gave them the Billions that Trump supposedly has. Some people really have no level for satisfaction.
 
http://ourcontract.org/news/2016/6/28/joint-mec-unanimously-approves-tentative-agreement
 
Joint MEC Unanimously Approves Tentative Agreement
 
Dear Fellow Flight Attendants:
 
We have a Tentative Agreement. We stand behind the Tentative Agreement and unanimously approved submitting it to AFA members for ratification. 
 
As the elected leaders representing all 25,000 United Flight Attendants, we reviewed with our Joint Negotiating Committee (JNC), line-by-line, the language agreed to with United Airlines management for a joint collective bargaining agreement. We also reviewed the process by which our JNC fought for our collective priorities to join three contracts, extended beneficial provisions to the whole group and advanced the overall value of our joint contract to lead the industry. We thank every Flight Attendant who took part in supporting our negotiations.
 
With your approval, our Flight Attendant contract will set new industry standards that push our careers forward as United Airlines seeks to restore our premiere status in the industry. Some of these provisions include:
  • Improved single pay scale with base rates topping out in the 13th year at $62.00 and moving to $67.11 throughout the agreement.
  • $2.00 international override per hour and reimbursement for Global Entry.
  • $5.00 incentive rate of pay for all flying between 200 and 330 hours in a quarter.
  • Preserved our Flight Attendant-specific healthcare plan, with additional Medical Plan options.
  • Profit Sharing
  • Protected Scope language that defines Flight Attendant work as belonging to AFA members on the United Airlines System Seniority list – all CAL/UAL/CMI.
  • No Furlough Letter for all Flight Attendants on seniority list at date of ratification.
  • Holiday Pay for 5 holidays each year.
  • Per diem at $2.20 Domestic / $2.70 for International with automatic $0.05 increase every other year
  • Three (3) hours flight time pay and credit for training, plus up to five (5) hours deadhead pay each way to and from training.
  • Industry-leading Reassignment protections and pay.
  • Commuter Program without usage limit and cabin jumpseat qualifies as an available seat for commuting purposes.  
  • No weight restrictions for CJA.
  • 12 days off for Reserves and 12 hours free from duty at home between trips.
  • Reserves have ability to trade assigned trips with Lineholders or other Reserves.
  • New ability for Reserves to pick up flying from Lineholders on days off. 
  • Domestic 10 hours free from duty on layovers, with at least 8 hours place of lodging at hotel.
  • 12 hours free from duty at home between trips for Domestic Lineholders, but waivable at Flight Attendant option to 10 hours when trading or picking up.
  • Contractual hotel standards with downtown/downtown-like hotels for layovers of 19 hours or more.
  • Hotel Gainsharing, domestic and International
  • Vacation days ranging from 12 days to 40 days, with an additional 7 day Flex Vacation and optional Vacation Fly Through.
  • Maintained and improved Retirement Plans.
  • Maintained floor exchange rates.
  • 5 year duration with early opener.
 
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nt many people like southwind over there for me. I haven't seen so many people ready to toss everyone junior to them and the rest of the industry under the bus.
Really? Please do show everyone the post where I said I was ready to toss everyone under the bus ole grand puba!
So, if layoffs do come do they start at the top of the seniority list, in your world?
 
southwind said:
Really? Please do show everyone the post where I said I was ready to toss everyone under the bus ole grand pubs!
What have you done to get more work in-house? When have you posted about more work going out of house? 
 
Oh and BTW outsourcing is up 5% yoy. 
but crickets from people like you. 
 
southwind said:
So, if layoffs do come do they start at the top of the seniority list, in your world?
 funny you bring up lay offs because in my world lay offs would have a clear policy. Not the Delta way of how ever the f**k we feel like it. 
 
700UW said:
It's there to show DL FAs what a CBA looks like and what being union does for you.
 
it also shows how you can be without a JCBA for what, 6 years? 
 
you aren't good at selling things 700.
 
They each did get their own stand alone CBAs during that period.

It takes two tango, DALPA isn't getting anywhere fast, AMFA is going on five years without a new agreement at WN.

No one can force a company to give a union a new CBA.

You do know the RLA, is only to protect interstate commerce and was enacted in 1926 when there were no airlines?

The system is flawed, workers under the NLRA can strike the minute their CBA expires, unlike airline workers, who CBAs become amendable and don't expire.
 
700UW said:
They each did get their own stand alone CBAs during that period.

It takes two tango, DALPA isn't getting anywhere fast, AMFA is going on five years without a new agreement at WN.

No one can force a company to give a union a new CBA.

You do know the RLA, is only to protect interstate commerce and was enacted in 1926 when there were no airlines?

The system is flawed, workers under the NLRA can strike the minute their CBA expires, unlike airline workers, who CBAs become amendable and don't expire.
 
You make a lot of excuses.......
 
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