East Asia

[Airline Employee]

I was wondering why USAirways doesn't fly to NRT airport. There are so many unused NRT slots available from the USA.
TWA had one from STL that was never used.
AA has one from SEA that they bought from CO that is not used,
AA has one from BOS that was never used.
DL has one from PDX & one from LAX that are currently unused at this time.
There might be some more unused

US needs more international traffic and they can easily from to NRT from either LAS or PHX. If Delta can fly SLC-NRT (with financialy help from the airport & the state) I'm sure US can get help from PHX & Arizona.

 

[BoeingBoy]

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that frequencies to serve the U.S. - NRT market must be available and handed out by the government after an application and selection process. An airline can't just decide to serve NRT, even if slots aren't being used, without getting frequencies awarded to it.

Also, in the case of US, there's been the lack of equipment with the range to fly routes to eastern Asia.

Jim

 

[flybynite]

Lord, I hate to be so ignorant but where is NRT?

 

[NiceLandingCaptain]

Narita, Japan.

 

[flybynite]

Got a map? 🙂

 

[john john]

Lord, I hate to be so ignorant but where is NRT?

You must work in the IT QIK/SHARES department

 

[Crzipilot]

Probably does, we can help them out anyways....maybe they will start to learn their geography...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source...&iwloc=addr

 

[Freighterguynow]

NRT is a strange animal. The 'slots' you are referring to are gate/ramp slots not takeoff and landing as we see here in the US.

So, your 4 hour slot might be 0100 to 0500 local. No RON. Get in - then get out.

Plus, NRT is like Islip. It's close to a major metropolitan area but really in the middle of nowhere. Good luck trying to find parking and I never did see a rail link either.

 

[john john]

Didn’t HP try this with two passengers?

 

[PBI2FLL]

Didn’t HP try this with two passengers?

NOPE, they flew to Nagoya.

 

[FWAAA]

Plus, NRT is like Islip. It's close to a major metropolitan area but really in the middle of nowhere. Good luck trying to find parking and I never did see a rail link either.

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/access/train/index.html

 

[Onestep2flt]

As said above, it was Nagoya and all the history that can be found on the event was that it was one passenger. Although a different CEO at the time it was a classic misstep that your present management team keeps making. It all started with denied service to Sydney. With two airplanes already on the way they did start Honolulu in 89. They also were trying for NRT but was denied and then Osaka but that was also denied. They settled on daily service to Nagoya which almost immediately went down to three times a week. They had two more planes on the way and they started flying to JFK. They had to move to the old Eastern terminal which was in very poor condition. Did not even have jetways that worked. Then 1991 brought bankruptcy which ended 747 service. Sad really, Nagoya is to this day an undeserved city from North America. The third largest city in Japan and very accessible to the rest of Japan. Of course just like your present management team, there seems to be no thought into how to make things work. Just throw a dart at a wall with post-it note ideas and give a try!

Just like groundhog day, it is happening all over again. Announced trying to get service to Shanghai and end up with Beijing. Get the route before an aircraft is capable of making it there. No worries well get an A340. I know that fuel costs played a large roll in that, however, it sure sounds like they are going to try it with an A330-200. Remember, these are the same craft you are suppose to take to Tel Aviv that they are fighting putting decent crew rest accommodations in. This is just shy of a thousand miles more than going to Tel Aviv! Don't get me wrong, I do believe Beijing will make a great addition to the International route structure I just think that no one is really steering you ship toward a successfully outcome. Somebody needs to line the ducks up.

I do wish success for the good of all your employees but I think you guys may need a new coach to take it all the way.

 

[YVINTERN]

and for the love of me I can't figure out why passengers would take US these days.

 

[Onestep2flt]

It is like everything else in this world. People try to get the least expensive price they can find. In this case the saying you get what you paid for is an understatement. Who would have thought they were also getting the "Cheapest" ticket as well. Well, until you need to take more than a carry on or talk with a human being to fix the website screwup, get hungry on the plane, would like an isle or window seat or get thirsty from having gone through all of that in one day!

 

[700UW]

US Air back in the early 90s was awarded PIT-NRT, did not have a plane for the route and the Pilots blocked a wet lease so the route was given up.