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Murders in U.S 2011:

By gun 8583
By other means 4081
Total: 12664

U.S. deaths by automobile 2011
32,367

Clearly the automobile has got to be banned. Those things are killers.

Dam. Not this bull chit agin. Did the folks with guns intend to kill their victim? Is there an alternative purpose to a gun other than to kill something?

Every object known to man including man its self can be used to kill. Guns sole purpose is to kill. There is a difference.
 
Murders in U.S 2011:

By gun 8583
By other means 4081
Total: 12664

U.S. deaths by automobile 2011
32,367

Clearly the automobile has got to be banned. Those things are killers.

Number of 6 year olds killed in their classrom by a gun in 2012 - 20
Number of 6 year olds killed by a car in their classroom in 2012 - 0
 
I would gently ask any one of you to show me an instance where a gun unlocked itself, broke out of the gun safe strolled down the Blvdm walked into a group of people and aimed and fired on that group all by itself.

Adam Lanza made a decision on Friday to act on his darker impulses.

He could have driven to the school with a pickup truck full of fertilizer and did a Tim McVeigh on the place

He could have driven to the school and set off multiple IED's

He could have driven to the school and taken his vehicle an ran a bus load of kids over an embankment

He could have driven to the school and took his vehicle and ran down several dozen people.

He could have driven to the school and dumped a 5 gallon container of gasoline through the school and torched it.

Instead he chose a method he was more comfortable with.

But no matter how you slice all of the above options, none would have happened if Adam Lanza hadn't put his plan into action.
 
Now lets take your silly example to the other extreme....having some bonehead who "bump fires" an AR15 for "sport" is akin to driving my car down the sidewalk at 70 mph....the only thing I'm going to accomplish is killing lots of people in a very short time.

Hmm, So in your mind a person "bump firing" a weapon for "sport" on a closed range or on private land rates the same as somebody driving 70 down a sidewalk?

Careful where you gladly let things start being changed in a constitution. History shows time and again once it starts it goes much farther and faster than anybody imagined.

If everybody had their way we would not own cars, land, eat meat, read what we want, own guns, play video games, watch movies, etc etc etc.

For anybody that has travelled a lot around the world and has seen what is "normal" in many countries as to what you can watch, read, write, drive etc. There is a very slippery slope once long standing liberties are changed. It is very rare in history that it stops at "just this one thing".

I am outraged at the school killings as much as anyone. But if we give into fear and start banning this and banning that, it will not stop. history shows this issue over and over.

On this board alone we have proponents of banning gasoline powered cars and a whole host of other "controls" they would like to subject you to.
 
Its amazing how people on this board arent blaming guns, guns were made for one mission, yes people pull the trigger, but a gun is designed to hurt and kill.

With so many incidents over the years it clearly shows that the system of regulating them is broken.

I wonder how one of you would feel about guns if it was your kid that was hurt or killed.

The issue is the laws of this land are permitting people to kill innocent people and massacre them, enough is enough.

Mcdonalds Shooting,
Columbine
Amish School
Jewish Center
Movie Theater
Sandy Hook.

ENOUGH!
 
Hmm, So in your mind a person "bump firing" a weapon for "sport" on a closed range or on private land rates the same as somebody driving 70 down a sidewalk?

Careful where you gladly let things start being changed in a constitution. History shows time and again once it starts it goes much farther and faster than anybody imagined.

If everybody had their way we would not own cars, land, eat meat, read what we want, own guns, play video games, watch movies, etc etc etc.

For anybody that has travelled a lot around the world and has seen what is "normal" in many countries as to what you can watch, read, write, drive etc. There is a very slippery slope once long standing liberties are changed. It is very rare in history that it stops at "just this one thing".

I am outraged at the school killings as much as anyone. But if we give into fear and start banning this and banning that, it will not stop. history shows this issue over and over.

On this board alone we have proponents of banning gasoline powered cars and a whole host of other "controls" they would like to subject you to.


An AR15 was designed to

A) Make deer hunting easier and more efficientl
B. Plink tin cans at the range
C) Kill large numbers of people in a matter of seconds

I guess we can take some comfort in knowing that the gun performed EXACTLY as it was designed to perform
 
Its amazing how people on this board arent blaming guns, guns were made for one mission, yes people pull the trigger, but a gun is designed to hurt and kill.

With so many incidents over the years it clearly shows that the system of regulating them is broken.

And what would that be called......Congress?
 
That would be called every local, state, special interest (NRA) group and federal level legislators.

Look at NYC, if you have an illegal gun, you do one year in jail minimum.
 
I would gently ask any one of you to show me an instance where a gun unlocked itself, broke out of the gun safe strolled down the Blvdm walked into a group of people and aimed and fired on that group all by itself.

Well...the mentally deranged son acted as teh arms and legs of the guns that his mom left unlocked in their house. True enough he could have done some major damage with the two pistols, but the weapon he opted to use is a weapon whose sole purpose is to kill as many people as possible in as short a time as possible. And we all think we've got some God given right to own this device that was designed to kill not a deer or bird or bear, but another human being.
 
It's quite understandable the rage and passion at this time.

But......

You should be careful what you wish for.

What if you live in Detroit?
Or in the aftermath of a natural or man made catastrophe?

!st thing that happens is the police are overwhelmed, you're on your own.
2nd thing that happens is the police are overwhelmed, you're on your own.
3rd thing, looting, pillaging and God knows what else by armed perps with any number of weapons......say semi auto handguns......now you've been reduced to owning single shot rifles and pistols.......
That 'assault rifle' would feel real good about now.

Never happen??
Staten Island/Sandy?
Katrina?
Riots?

Be careful for what you wish for.
 
I guess the pro-gun side dont realize there werent automatic and semi-automatic weapons around when the constitution was written.
 
I guess the pro-gun side dont realize there werent automatic and semi-automatic weapons around when the constitution was written.
Welll..our forefathers were omnicient. They knew that one day we would have the UN and need to be protected from the New World Order. And they knew that weaponry would be developed. And being the Christian nation that they were, they knew that one day the day of Gog and Magaog would be upon us and we MUST have the right to protect ourselves and our God. And if some little kids in an elementary school are collateral damage, it doesn't matter. IT's in the bible. Book of Armaments 5:18 where the Lord sayeth "pick you your weapons capable of killing a hundred in just under 5 seconds and rise up against the evil that faces you..feareth not...for thine weaponry doth not kill....man himself is the killer.".

There are gun owners and gun nuts. And unfortunately, gun nuts seem to be driving the powers that be.
 
Welll..our forefathers were omnicient. They knew that one day we would have the UN and need to be protected from the New World Order. And they knew that weaponry would be developed. And being the Christian nation that they were, they knew that one day the day of Gog and Magaog would be upon us and we MUST have the right to protect ourselves and our God. And if some little kids in an elementary school are collateral damage, it doesn't matter. IT's in the bible. Book of Armaments 5:18 where the Lord sayeth "pick you your weapons capable of killing a hundred in just under 5 seconds and rise up against the evil that faces you..feareth not...for thine weaponry doth not kill....man himself is the killer.".

There are gun owners and gun nuts. And unfortunately, gun nuts seem to be driving the powers that be.

So a gun nut is one that advocates responsible and law abiding use of firearms?
 

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