Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Ames]

From an arbirator that you picked and two neutrals perspective.

Check with your merger committee. They insisted on Nicolau. Our merger committee did not want him but our MEC chairman went around them and told the attorney to concede.

I know you won't believe this but even so, the arbitrators were chosen in a manner similar to picking a jury. Nicolau was your mc's first choice. I am sure you can find the documentation if you try or simply call one of your mc members and ask them.

 

[A320 Driver]

Check with your merger committee. They insisted on Nicolau. Our merger committee did not want him but our MEC chairman went around them and told the attorney to concede.

I know you won't believe this but even so, the arbitrators were chosen in a manner similar to picking a jury. Nicolau was your mc's first choice. I am sure you can find the documentation if you try or simply call one of your mc members and ask them.

Actually, he was their third choice unless the MC flat out lied to me.

 

[dca319]

From an arbirator that you picked and two neutrals perspective.

We actually struck for him first. We already had him do a prior integration and figured he was a known quantity.

 

[dca319]

Actually, he was their third choice unless the MC flat out lied to me.

You weren't lied to, but we did choose him before the west did.

 

[Ames]

Well, you east pilots have had all day to find the APA update where the president refutes DOH. Has the realization that your fantasy ends here begun to sink in?

Are you going to miss chanting DOH, DOH? Are you going to miss line bidding? Are you going to miss flying with your FA's all month?

Just what is ucrapa achieving for you guys anyway? It doesn't appear you're getting anything you want but that's what happens when you demand things that are way out of your reach.

 

[Ames]

Actually, he was their third choice unless the MC flat out lied to me.

There's documentation. I am sure you can find it.

 

[snapthis]

A320 Driver, on 01 March 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:
Actually, he was their third choice unless the MC flat out lied to me.


Of course you don't resect him. He didn't give you what you wanted and you are too much of a child to understand that people more relevant than you do respect him.

He's a WWII vet who lost a leg. He fought for this country.
Thank you for your sevice, George Nicolau.

George Nicolau
Born February 14, 1925
George Nicolau is an American jurist who works out of New York. Before entering college, Nicolau lost a leg during World War II. After his recovery, he turned to law. He graduated from Columbia University with his juris doctor degree and became a high-powered attorney.

 

[cleardirect]

You are right RES, there will not be any east class because....well why would there be?

There might be a class of reneging scabs who join together and file a lawsuit.....but that will not make them the "east" class!

Further, who are they going to sue, and what are they going to sue for,,,, the company for not kowtowing to their demands, or the APA for well ...um....kicking their ### instead of kissing it,,,,,or the West pilot class for.....um...again like the APA!!

That point needs to be repeated.

Who would east pilots sue? Their new bargaining agent for ignoring the former bargaining agents proposal? Usapa told us that is a loser and the new union can ignore the old.

Going to sue west pilots? We will be APA pilots sue them. Oh new bargains agent.

The company? The Jones letter explains their legal position.

 

[A320 Driver]

He's a WWII vet who lost a leg. He fought for this country.
Thank you for your sevice, George Nicolau.

George Nicolau
Born February 14, 1925
George Nicolau is an American jurist who works out of New York. Before entering college, Nicolau lost a leg during World War II. After his recovery, he turned to law. He graduated from Columbia University with his juris doctor degree and became a high-powered attorney.

Yes, thank you for your service. Now retire.

 

[dca319]

Yes, thank you for your service. Now retire.

I'm sure that's what our AFO's are saying too.

 

[cleardirect]

You're an idiot. All it takes to become a "certified class", to use your words, is to file a lawsuit. Plus, there is no pending order against the East saying that a judgement specifically applies to them, as Judge Sllver did to the Westicles when she amended her order. The Nic isn't going anywhere. It won't be a player. Count on it.

There are no facts to ignore, except for the ones that continually tell you that the Nic is dead.

You and your friends that dwell on this are morons.

Have you or any east pilots put together an LLC yet? Set up a trust to collect donations? Interviewed lawyers?

Btw O'Dwyer or symanski would be a really bad idea. Show up In Court with the usapa lawyers that were supposed to represent ALL us airways pilots to then sue on behalf of east plots. Provable DFR.

Find different lawyers.

Count on a retainer of about $30,000- $50,000 to start. Around $100,000 to file. If it is not dismissed right away have about $2 million waiting. If you can find a law firm to take the case. They will want a showing of interest. Then there is the part about opting out of the class.

With a new contract and a new seniority list how many east pilots want to continue the fight without the extortion I means dues?

So sue away boys. Get your plan together and start collecting money if you want to be an east class.

 

[cleardirect]

Don't make me pull out that award and quote to you from our neutral...OK? He wasn't happy with it but he did what his pal Prater told him to do in the end.

More conspiracy theory. Prater now told the neutral to agree but then told the east pilots that he thought it was unfair.

Guys pick a conspiracy and stuck with it.

Yes please quote captain Brucia and his praise for Mr. Nicolau and his "exceptional judgement and wisdom".

The only thing he disagreed with was the 300 furloued pilot recalled AFTER the merger and PID. Otherwise he agreed with the award.

 

[Metroyet]

Kevin, you got it all wrong. When you are Metroyet and now. The only clock running is the one Marty runs and uses to bill you for the bad advice he dispenses.

Leave me out of it you lunatic.

 

[A320 Driver]

More conspiracy theory. Prater now told the neutral to agree but then told the east pilots that he thought it was unfair.

Guys pick a conspiracy and stuck with it.

Yes please quote captain Brucia and his praise for Mr. Nicolau and his "exceptional judgement and wisdom".

The only thing he disagreed with was the 300 furloued pilot recalled AFTER the merger and PID. Otherwise he agreed with the award.

Don't need a theory. Prater was crystal clear he wanted us to take one for the team because it was contract time at his pet carriers. All that after he strolled into the crew room and announced he knew the NIC was "problematic" the first time he saw it. File your suit and lets get this show on the road. It's time for this to be over and it won't be over until a judge says it's over.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Have you or any east pilots put together an LLC yet? Set up a trust to collect donations? Interviewed lawyers?

Btw O'Dwyer or symanski would be a really bad idea. Show up In Court with the usapa lawyers that were supposed to represent ALL us airways pilots to then sue on behalf of east plots. Provable DFR.

Find different lawyers.

Count on a retainer of about $30,000- $50,000 to start. Around $100,000 to file. If it is not dismissed right away have about $2 million waiting. If you can find a law firm to take the case. They will want a showing of interest. Then there is the part about opting out of the class.

With a new contract and a new seniority list how many east pilots want to continue the fight without the extortion I means dues?

So sue away boys. Get your plan together and start collecting money if you want to be an east class.

Sorry, fools. The East pilots don't need to. YOUR dues are helping support our cause. Plus, there has been no shortage of lawyers, legal experts or anyone else to support our cause.

YOU LOSE AGAIN!