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I don't even think they have to survive until 2008. When SW's fuel ends, they will have to raise prices. They are in the driver's seat until then. If they had to pay even $10 / barrel more, they would not have even ventured into PHL or PIT. They are too expensive. The cheap gas allowed them to almost subsidize the entries of these airports. GECAS is a well-run company. They have to look at the whole picture. On one hand, they will have to eat the planes that US is using right now. On the other hand, they might get another domestic carrier to take on a potenially huge seller. There are a lot of 767s in North America. I think that if someone buys/leases a significant fleet of this type, others will have to try to compete; this might mean more of a market for a new type of aircraft. GECAS would be able to swoop in and grab the prime production slots in front of any of the North American carriers and force them to either wait for slots or lease from GECAS. They will probably wait a little while until either a major purchase(not CO's handful) by the others, or a substantial amount ordered by foreign airlines who will fly them into the US. The competitive atmosphere will be set up for them to make good money going forward, regardless of whether US survives or not. GECAS will order the planes anyways. If US survives byt then, they will get the first planes.
 
Sorry to inform guys but i am not an Airbus pilot. 2nd of all, I am pro union but I have a differnet mentality than you chest thumpers do. I know about economies of scale and other terms taught in college finance and economics courses. You thick headed old timers just don't seem to understand what the hell is going on in the global economy do you?? I rather have a job then no job man or at least collect some unemployment, im not gonna let these bastards win. They want you suckers to vote no, so they can screw you more. Eitehr way you are getting the shaft , yes, but at least you will be able to put some food on the table. If you don't liek it I suggest find another job or go learn some new trade. Everyone has been screwed in this economy not just US Airways employees, you guys think only about what has happened to you. Look at enron, worldcom all teh other industries with major cuts and layoffs! Working at Airways won't be the same for anyone but eventually it might be possible to take pride in the job once again that all of us so dearly loved.
 
Nobody likes losing mainline aircraft, but US Airways needed to obtain $100 million in liquidity to comply with the GE bridge financing agreement. In addition to Airbus providing the airline with $6 million, the European company also agreed to drop claims against the carrier for nonpayment of leases on current aircraft. Thus, the deal helps us preserve the current fleet instead of getting even smaller.

Once US Airways becomes profitable, the company can then return to the capital markets and finance larger jets, which is in the business plan.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
Since we are talking about fleet. What is the breakdown of A/C being returned to Boeing? As i recall its 73's/319's/757's. Why not return more 73's and keep 319's? I thought fleet rationalization was part of the plan.
 
No airplanes are being returned to Boeing.

10 Airbus narrowbodies and 15 737s are being returned to GECAS.
 
USA320Pilot said:
Once US Airways becomes profitable, the company can then return to the capital markets and finance larger jets, which is in the business plan.

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Or stay unprofitable and come back for even more if they survive.

Nobody likes giving up mainline jets but some sure enjoy showing other employees the door or to empty their fellow employees pockets to help them keep their jobs.
 
700UW is correct. One A319 per month will be returned to GECAS in February through August and three A319s will be returned in September. These aircraft are scheduled to be flown by a European Operator.

Fifteen B737s will be returned to GECAS in 2006 and 2007 and will be converted to freighter status.

I understand the company’s business plan anticipates adding other Airbus aircraft to the mainline as early as 2006.

Best regards,

USA320Pilot
 
usairways_vote_NO said:
Or stay unprofitable and come back for even more if they survive.

Nobody likes giving up mainline jets but some sure enjoy showing other employees the door or to empty their fellow employees pockets to help them keep their jobs.
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You're seeing an end where there's a means.
 
mweiss said:
You're seeing an end where there's a means.
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You are seeing a means when it ain't your pocket or job. Oh wait it is your pocket you buy tickets right?
 
usairways_vote_NO said:
You are seeing a means when it ain't your pocket or job.
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That's not the point. It's a means, not an end. Why pretend that it is what it is not?
 
mweiss said:
That's not the point. It's a means, not an end. Why pretend that it is what it is not?
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Because it is an end and you admit what I said is true I am making it the point like it or not.
 
usairways_vote_NO said:
Because it is an end
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In order for it to be an end, they'd be getting rid of jobs just for the hell of it. Is that your allegation?

and you admit what I said is true
Actually, no, I don't.

I am making it the point like it or not.
The point being...?
 
usairways_vote_NO said:
Because it is an end and you admit what I said is true I am making it the point like it or not.
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Vote No,
You are a sad little person. Get over it and move on.
 
mweiss said:
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My allegation and point is USAirways is doomed too little to late.

a320av8r said:
Vote No,
You are a sad little person. Get over it and move on.
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Is that opposed to you being a happy big person or what is your point? Get over what and move on what? Should you do the same? What's your point being here?
 

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