Airbus Order - 320s, 330's, 350's

[Callsign_Cactus]

Here are some additional Q&A from AboutUs that seem to shed light on questions being asked:

Q. What will happen to the widebody fleet?

A. The A350 deliveries are pretty far off – in 2014 and beyond. We plan to continue to operate the A330-300s for some time because they’re relatively young and have good economics. Ten new A330-200 aircraft will be added to the fleet beginning in 2009. The A330- 200 is a smaller longer-range version of the A330-300, and will give us the ability to add new destinations in Europe and possibly Asia as well. The A330-200 also has the ability to fly from Phoenix and Las Vegas to Europe.


Q. What existing narrowbody airplanes will be retired and when?

A. The entire fleet of both East and West 737-300/400 planes will be retired between 2008 and the end of 2012 under the current plan. We also plan to eliminate the oldest B757s from the fleet, which would leave us with 20 757s to be used on Hawaii, European and certain transcon routes.


Q. What airplane will we use to fly to China?

A. In 2014, the A350 will be able to fly to China and many other long haul destinations. In the meantime, we’re looking at possibly adding another type of long haul airplane to the fleet to operate these flights if we win the traffic rights. We can convert some of our A330-200s into long range A340s. In addition to the 22 firm A350 planes, we also have purchase rights for additional aircraft so we can continue to expand internationally.

Delete all of the above post. I just read the special edition of AboutUS:

Q. So what’s the grand total for new airplanes at US Airways?

A. The grand total is 150 aircraft set to be delivered. That includes 97 A320 family aircraft (including 37 planes from a previous order), 21 E190s, 10 A330-200s and 22 A350s.

So looks like this is the same 10 A330's that have been on order.

Jim

 

[fr8tmastr]

Great plan Doug, fill the air with the same Airbi that all the worlds airlines have already figured out CAN'T DO THE JOB. Why do you think there are 340's available from Air Canada? Why has Boeing sold around 600 787's, including the ones to Air Canada?

321, no problem, I understand the passengers love the extra stop on the transcon, you know it gives them time to stretch, and it also allows one more opportunity for the FA's to try and force people to buy stuff with their new credit cards.

What happened to your statement about keeping two fleet types in order to keep the competition going, between manufacturers?

What about your next merger attempt, with all the worlds airlines coveting the 787 how will you sell the 350XBXXX super duper Airbus? Maybe if you just show them the interior, I am sure that will look spectacular, even if its only a mockup.

I guess the real question is, how much did you get from AB to put this through?? With the tens of millions you have gained so far off this company's back, one would think you might actually want your gravy train to continue for more than a couple of years. Greed got to you huh?

As if Shares, LCC, and business Casual was not enough, you get a paper airplane and then the same day announce that you have outsourced even more jobs to Mexico to service them.

As a loyal FFocus member has said... "Cost of everything, value of nothing"

Why dont you do us all a favor and pull that golden rip cord!

 

[PHL Approach]

If you do the math after all the narrowbodies they want gone leave and they get the new narrowbody order in. They are short 10 aircraft then what they have now. We want to expand right...? That's kind of like SEPTA (transit agency in Philly) they are retiring tons of railcars while they say they want to increase the amount of cars they currently have. Well when all is said and done and they get the new cars but have already retired the others they have had a net gain of 3 cars - which most likely 3 will be out of service at any time anyway. Both companies are thinking ahead alright!

 

[LD3]

Not a bad opening day!!!

Airbus order book overflows on first day at Paris

Airbus opened the Paris Air Show with more than $30 billion in orders yesterday, comprising a mix of new deals and the firming of previously announced MOUs totaling more than 275 aircraft from more than half-a-dozen airlines and leasing companies.

The biggest deal valuewise was the finalization of Qatar Airways' 80-unit A350 XWB MOU from May plus the addition of three A380s to bring the carrier's A380 order book to five.

The A350 order was valued at $16 billion, while Qatar CEO Akbar Al Baker put the value of the A380s, which represented the firming of two options plus one new order, at $750 million. As previously announced, the A350 order comprises 20 A350-800s, 40 -900s and 20 -1000s, with first delivery in 2013. Rolls-Royce valued the Trent XWB order at $5.6 billion at list prices, describing it as the "largest-ever firm engine order for its civil aerospace business." The agreement includes a TotalCare long-term services agreement.

In discussing the selection of the A350, Al Baker said the airline has been involved closely in its design and "the aircraft definition document is very specifically tailormade for Qatar Airways." He also stated that the order "underlines the confidence that Qatar Airways has in Airbus's capability to produce an outstanding new-generation, twin-engine, widebody aircraft."

US Airways signed for $10 billion worth of A320s, A330s and A350 XWBs, including finalization of an order for 22 A350s (boosted from 20 originally). It took 10 A330-200s that will fill the gap until the arrival of the XWBs and 60 A320 family aircraft, a mix of A319s, A320s and A321s. The deal includes "a number" of purchase rights. US currently holds orders for 37 A320 family aircraft for delivery in 2009-10 and will retire its 737-300s/400s as they are delivered. Rolls valued the Trent XWB order at more than $1.8 billion at list prices.Emirates added to its A380 order book by signing an LOI for eight more, bringing its industry-leading backlog to 55. Emirates Group Chairman Ahmed Bin Saeed Al Maktoum said the additional orders were unrelated to any compensation for the A380's late deliveries. "This [order] should leave no one in any way in doubt about our commitment to Airbus's very large aircraft," he said.

Adding to Airbus's busy day, GE Commercial Aviation Services signed for 60 A320 family aircraft, while S7 Group ordered 25 A320s for S7 Airlines. Aviation Lease and Finance Company of Kuwait bought 12 A350 XWBs and seven A320s and Air France signed an MOU for the purchase of two more A320s and 18 Airbus narrowbodies. Also, Jazeera Airways of Kuwait ordered 30 A320s, bringing its order book to 40, and Nouvelair ordered two A320s.
By Perry Flint

 

[LD3]

This question was asked in AboutUS:

Q: Will Airbus produce the A350 on time or will it also be late like the A380?

A: The engineering resources that Airbus has dedicated to the A380 program will soon be shifting their attention to the A350 program soon. ETC ETC...


HMM....how comforting is that.

 

[allstrike]

In the mean time AirFrance goes Boeing..lol

Air France said in a statement it plans to replace 13 747-400 passenger and five 747-400 cargo aircraft with extended-range 777-300ERs and 777 freighters. The airline said higher fuel costs and environmental concerns prompted the decision to upgrade.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070524/boeing_air_...rders.html?.v=1
go figure

 

[700UW]

The Air Canada 340s have all ready been sold or leased to someone else, count those planes out.

 

[US1YFARE]

Here are some additional Q&A from AboutUs that seem to shed light on questions being asked:
Q. What airplane will we use to fly to China?

A. In 2014, the A350 will be able to fly to China and many other long haul destinations. In the meantime, we’re looking at possibly adding another type of long haul airplane to the fleet to operate these flights if we win the traffic rights. We can convert some of our A330-200s into long range A340s. In addition to the 22 firm A350 planes, we also have purchase rights for additional aircraft so we can continue to expand internationally.

Do they really think they will get awarded the traffic rights if they do not currently have the planes to operate it? Why would you award a carrier that doesn't have the capability in the hopes that they will be able to find a plane to operate it?

 

[john john]

Pilot carrot chasers is this the largest airbus order??????????

 

[N924PS]

Pilot carrot chasers is this the largest airbus order??????????

Still waiting for the 400 Airbus 320 Family and 30 A330's from Wolf and Gangwal's "more airplanes than God can count" order circa 1996.

 

[usairways85]

The A332's are supposed to be a stop gap until the A350's arrive yet many of the A332's won't arrive for another 2-3 years.

So...uh, what do they plan to do for the next 2 years with regards to expanding to 2 or 3 new destinations a year.

IF they lease aircraft to facilitate this expansion over the next few years by the time the A332's arrive they may have to primarily be used to simply replace the leased aircraft.

 

[rvolkcpa]

Here are some additional Q&A from AboutUs that seem to shed light on questions being asked:


Q. What existing narrowbody airplanes will be retired and when?

A. The entire fleet of both East and West 737-300/400 planes will be retired between 2008 and the end of 2012 under the current plan. We also plan to eliminate the oldest B757s from the fleet, which would leave us with 20 757s to be used on Hawaii, European and certain transcon routes.

As a passenger, I like the comfort of the A320 family cabin. On the other hand, the 737-800 and 737-900 extended range would be capable of Hawaii from the west coast and transcons with no worry about fuel stops. That would offer more flexibility than having just the 757 for routes beyond the 320 family's range.

 

[BuffaloJoe]

So...uh, what do they plan to do for the next 2 years with regards to expanding to 2 or 3 new destinations a year.

If they get awarded a China route, doesn't the route have to start up in a certain amount of time? And in that time they are going to have two aircraft ready to fly? Somebody please B!tch Slap DoUgIe!

 

[phllax]

DELETED -I didn't read page 4!

 

[Atlantic]

Well, they got the engines right, but dang---Airbus--max a 20 year frame.