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[Tim Nelson]

if you think its BS call someone who was there first hand. Ive given you a name and Im sure you have his number, since you think your such a big shot on everything call him and ask.

700 is spot on with this. OTOH, I don't know the truth as to why your company has apparently walked out of negotiations, but there is no question your company wants to drag out any arbitration date, if it walked out.
Whether or not they succeed is the stuff attorneys are made of. I have been told the whole freakn case stacks up against your company and a big award for fleet service seems destined. Provided the IAM sticks to its guns, I don't think I would fret if I'm a US East employee because any award will most likely contain backpay and possibly interest on top of that. And whatever the East gets, will just provide for a stronger hand for the 'westies'.

So what you're saying is consistent with a particular party [insert your company here] wanting to drag things out. Clearly, if the company felt it had a strong case against arbitration then it would want to get things done quickly so it could be thrown out. Such doesn't seem to be the case.
To be sure, I have seen arbitration cases postponed but that's the only angle I can see. An award seems 'enevitable'.
Ironically, I'm sure the IAM was ready to drop any award for certain negotiated items, so maybe the company's apparent stalling action will benefit fleet service more than if they negotiated in good faith.

C'mon Arbitration! I'm sure fleet service can use Big wage hikes and Big fat retro pays!
regards,

 

[28yrsnojob]

something better give or the company isnt going to anybody
loading,deicing,unloading,push backs,parking there aircraft

 

[robbedagain]

something better give or the company isnt going to anybody
loading,deicing,unloading,push backs,parking there aircraft

but the company could always try to pull a nwa type and replace cant they if the rampers do this "usair aint going to have anyonw to load, etc" does nayone know if the IAM is trying to get it in the contract where if a former us employee working in a outsourced city can transfer to mainline city and keep the pay they had at the outsourced time along with seniority?

 

[Tim Nelson]

I've stayed quiet until now as I wanted to read up a bit. Here is my observations:

What Should Happen:
-Case goes to arbitration and IAM wins.
-IAM accepts modest Wage hikes for west in exchange for no more outsourcing and "Quality of Life" work issues.
-Increased percentage of profit sharing in exchange for mdest wage hikes

What WILL Happen:

-IAM will negotiate Arbitration Award away rather than risk losing.
-IAM will negotiate modest TOS increases across the system stating "in fairness to our West Brothers and sisters"
-Tony Armedio and possibly ALL of the "Thug 22" will be reinstated.

Piney, I agree with both of your points. The change of control grievance is not up for negotiations, it is already in the agreement and already bought and paid for with the big concessions and sweat of the hard working men and women at US AIRWAYS.

Unfortunately, this is exactly why labor went down another notch from 7.9% of private employees organized to now only 7.4%...almost another full 1/2 pt drop in one year. Unfortunate because workers are exploited by the unions as they offer 'piss clam' representation as they whore.

Labor does not equal worker rights anymore and the workers have grown smart and voted union out. Unions are more concerned with arguing cases against the boy scouts of america for homosexuals and other non-labor issues, than fighting for workers.

OTOH, what I see is the IAM having an opportunity to actually do something beyond the US AIRWAYS property by winning this arbitration award and "BIG Wage Gains with Big Back Pay awards" and making a new paradigm and model for organized labor. With the company's insistance, stubbornness, and perhaps arrogance to not pay squat, it just may make this whole thing fall into the IAM's lap. But that may be wishful thinking considering the IAM is pathetic. At any rate, until the IAM or other unions actually get back to 'doing something' for workers, they can continue to lose members and appear dinosauric to the modern working men and women of America.

regards,

 

[barbeetantrums]

Still no update on the IAM 141 website. <_<

 

[dbcooper]

I have no idea of what the company is up to but here is the IAM announcement:

TRANSITION DISCUSSIONS HALTED

PLEASE POST PLEASE POST
February 23, 2007

TO: All US Airways IAM Fleet Service Members

Dear Sisters and Brothers:

Discussions between your IAM Negotiating Committee and the Company continued this week in and effort to reach an agreement.

While some movement by the Company was forthcoming; we continue to be short of what you told us would be acceptable in our survey.

We believe these ongoing discussions were moving in the right direction, but our discussions came to a screaming halt with the Company’s ill timed charge into Bankruptcy Court to halt the “Change of Controlâ€￾ arbitration case scheduled for February 26th and 27th, 2007.

For now our Transition discussions are recessed as our full attention to the “Change of Controlâ€￾ legal action is required in behalf of our membership.

A separate bulletin updating the legal actions and challenge of the “Change of Controlâ€￾ arbitration case will be forthcoming as soon as events allow.


In solidarity, we remain



S.R. (Randy) Canale

President & Directing General Chairman

CC: GVP Roach, Jr.
AC Brickner
DL 141 Ex. Bd.
GLR Regan

GLR Johnson

 

[freedom]

i'm so bitter now that i really hope it goes to arbitration and that this company gets bent over ... and thats me speaking as a west worker who will get nothing from this , except maybe satifaction .

 

[libertybell]

i'm so bitter now that i really hope it goes to arbitration and that this company gets bent over ... and thats me speaking as a west worker who will get nothing from this , except maybe satifaction .

The company wants to go back to bankruptcy court when we are not in Bankruptcy what a bunch of BS! The company had its chance to eliminate that language during the last BK if they forgot this article then to bad for them and good for Fleet Service. USAirwarways is now now out of BK and they are turing huge profits so this will be seen as a total waste of court time it should be thrown out. The BK contract was voted on and agreed to by the members so the contracts closed. Sounds like the company is scared big time they are going to lose in arbitration!

 

[Harry Callahan]

Lets bring on the arbiration............

 

[carl71]

I second that.

 

[PI Blue]

Just remember...US had the BK judge in their pocket the entire process....Maybe justice will prevail this time..
Thats all we can hope for.

 

[diogenes]

Sounds like NevadaHP has good sources.

Given the current political climate and who appointed the majority of federal judges, labor is going to have a tough row to hoe for the foreseeable future.

One would think, given that US is out of BK, they have no avenue open to a BK court. One would think, US signed a contract in good faith that stipulates grievances will be settled by binding arbitration, and that a court would uphold the contract. We are on dangerous ground when the courts can pick and choose which contracts they are going to enforce. One would think, if US is going to argue this is a major dispute, they would have done so at the jump. Is the company trying to provoke a strike, a la NWA?

 

[BrutallyHonest]

The company wants to go back to bankruptcy court when we are not in Bankruptcy what a bunch of BS! The company had its chance to eliminate that language during the last BK if they forgot this article then to bad for them and good for Fleet Service.

What the lousy SOB's are doing is trying to file something in court that the change of control language was removed during bankruptcy. Not quite going back to bankruptcy court. I heard the company got bent out of shape when they found out some info about some key witnesses. Now this is a last ditch effort to slow things down again. This company will never change. :angry: :angry: :down:

 

[barbeetantrums]

The arbitration is still on for Monday? Correct?

 

[Harry Callahan]

The arbitration is still on for Monday? Correct?

As far as I know . I sure hope so.