For Adults Only!

[tech2101]

Now that the budget battle for FY11 has been settled, who were the adults that stepped up?

I give high marks to Speaker Boehner and President Obama for being the adults in the room during this thing.

The Senate leadership (D & R), in my opinion, acted foolishly during this debacle.

Boehner, it appears, did a good job in keeping the Tea Party radicals in check, while Obama did the same for the most liberal faction of his party.

They will need to continue to display this leadership if we are to avoid the total gridlock that would most certainly take place if the radical factions of the parties are allowed free reign.

 

[700UW]

It wasnt settled, they are only funded through Friday.

The measure, passed overnight by both houses of Congress, keeps the government operating until Friday. In a sharp contrast to the week of political sturm und drang, the signing was announced in a news release

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[dapoes]

It wasnt settled, they are only funded through Friday.

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Exactly

 

[SparrowHawk]

Now that the budget battle for FY11 has been settled, who were the adults that stepped up?

I give high marks to Speaker Boehner and President Obama for being the adults in the room during this thing.

The Senate leadership (D & R), in my opinion, acted foolishly during this debacle.

Boehner, it appears, did a good job in keeping the Tea Party radicals in check, while Obama did the same for the most liberal faction of his party.

They will need to continue to display this leadership if we are to avoid the total gridlock that would most certainly take place if the radical factions of the parties are allowed free reign.

I think your assessment is accurate. While you & I may disagree on what the next steps are, there has to be a first step. Granted, as our debate colleagues pointed out we don't have ink on paper yet, I don't think either party is foolish enough to kill this deal.

 

[tech2101]

I think your assessment is accurate. While you & I may disagree on what the next steps are, there has to be a first step. Granted, as our debate colleagues pointed out we don't have ink on paper yet, I don't think either party is foolish enough to kill this deal.

The larger budget bill will be passed and signed into law.

 

[dapoes]

Biggest take away from this exercise was (unlike Reagan and Clinton) Obama using military pay as a political bargaining chip. That was very telling and highly despicable. We all knew that Obama hates the military, now he doesn't even bother to hide it anymore. That alone will seal his fate at the ballot box come 2012!

 

[Ms Tree]

No one is going to do whats needed. I'd start by
- cutting def 25%,
- Over haul SS and Med Care.
- Pass real HC reform.
- Start a domestic Peace Corp of sorts. The US infrastructure is broken and needs over haul. Welfare gets cut to 6 months or so. Those who are unemployed can start there, learn a trade and move on.
- Increase CAFE regulations.
- Invest in public trans for city/state and national transportation.
- Increase fuel tax gradually as transportation becomes more available.
- Flat rate tax of about 10% on all income (not just W2). No deductions. May be 15% or 20% for corporations who do business on US soil (May be then GE will pay some tax).
- Recall a majority of US troops abroad.
- ban any former fed employee from having any business contact with the Fed for at least 20 yrs.
- ban all donations to elections. All elections are run on public funds. I'm tired of having elections bought and sold by the highest bidder.
- no tax exemptions for religions.

That will be for starters. Not sure what will happen in my second term lol

 

[dapoes]

No one is going to do whats needed. I'd start by
- cutting def 25%,
- Over haul SS and Med Care.
- Pass real HC reform.
- Start a domestic Peace Corp of sorts. The US infrastructure is broken and needs over haul. Welfare gets cut to 6 months or so. Those who are unemployed can start there, learn a trade and move on.
- Increase CAFE regulations.
- Invest in public trans for city/state and national transportation.
- Increase fuel tax gradually as transportation becomes more available.
- Flat rate tax of about 10% on all income (not just W2). No deductions. May be 15% or 20% for corporations who do business on US soil (May be then GE will pay some tax).
- Recall a majority of US troops abroad.
- ban any former fed employee from having any business contact with the Fed for at least 20 yrs.
- ban all donations to elections. All elections are run on public funds. I'm tired of having elections bought and sold by the highest bidder.
- no tax exemptions for religions.

That will be for starters. Not sure what will happen in my second term lol

Nice set of ruby slippers there Dorothy.

 

[signals]

No one is going to do whats needed. I'd start by
- cutting def 25%,
- Over haul SS and Med Care.
- Pass real HC reform.
- Start a domestic Peace Corp of sorts. The US infrastructure is broken and needs over haul. Welfare gets cut to 6 months or so. Those who are unemployed can start there, learn a trade and move on.
- Increase CAFE regulations.
- Invest in public trans for city/state and national transportation.
- Increase fuel tax gradually as transportation becomes more available.
- Flat rate tax of about 10% on all income (not just W2). No deductions. May be 15% or 20% for corporations who do business on US soil (May be then GE will pay some tax).
- Recall a majority of US troops abroad.
- ban any former fed employee from having any business contact with the Fed for at least 20 yrs.
- ban all donations to elections. All elections are run on public funds. I'm tired of having elections bought and sold by the highest bidder.
- no tax exemptions for religions.

That will be for starters. Not sure what will happen in my second term loli

Thank God most politicians have a better grasp of reality 🙄

 

[Ms Tree]

Thank God most politicians have a better grasp of reality 🙄

And you would do what? Judging from your response (or lack there of) nothing? You slam an idea and yet reply with nothing? How does that make any sense?

 

[dapoes]

Obama working hard today on deficit reduction plan http://tinyurl.com/3zcnh9g

63 times since Jan 2009. That's a lot of hope and change.

 

[tech2101]

I was really hoping this thread would be a long-term conversation on the political soup de-jour.

It would be really nice to have an adult debate on the merits of the latest hot-button issues.

The budget battle (for FY11) moved to the back burner for now, the next huge hot potato is the debt ceiling.

This will be a big test for the House Speaker. We will see how much control he wields over the Tea-Party radicals.

We will see how many of them understand the economic fallout of the United States defaulting on its debt.

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[Ms Tree]

I think Obama screwed up big time by not going with the debt commissions recommendations. Right now it is a political circus with each side protecting their pet projects and constituents. We will be the loosers regardless.

We have the government that we deserve.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I was really hoping this thread would be a long-term conversation on the political soup de-jour.

It would be really nice to have an adult debate on the merits of the latest hot-button issues.

The budget battle (for FY11) moved to the back burner for now, the next huge hot potato is the debt ceiling.

This will be a big test for the House Speaker. We will see how much control he wields over the Tea-Party radicals.

We will see how many of them understand the economic fallout of the United States defaulting on its debt.

Article

I am going to take issue with describing the Tea Party as radicals. First, as a group they do not represent a radical point of view. All they ask is that the Federal Government do what the rest of who don't have a printing press in the basement do and that's living within our means.

It's not radical to raise Constitutional questions regarding the POTUS acting unilaterally without seeking approval of Congress when he decided to attack another sovereign nation.

I must live in an alternate universe because all you seem to have to do is ask a question challenging the status quo and you're deemed radical. I would argue that a country that 14 Trillion in debt had best be looking at some radical options. Business as usual ain't gonna feed the bulldog

 

[dapoes]

I am going to take issue with describing the Tea Party as radicals. First, as a group they do not represent a radical point of view. All they ask is that the Federal Government do what the rest of who don't have a printing press in the basement do and that's living within our means.

It's not radical to raise Constitutional questions regarding the POTUS acting unilaterally without seeking approval of Congress when he decided to attack another sovereign nation.

I must live in an alternate universe because all you seem to have to do is ask a question challenging the status quo and you're deemed radical. I would argue that a country that 14 Trillion in debt had best be looking at some radical options. Business as usual ain't gonna feed the bulldog

You are spot on, however it will never resonate with the hardcore liberal progressives in this thread. They think this is a revenue problem rather then a spending problem. Thats why they have yet to offer any spending cuts, rather just tax more and more to keep up with their out of control spending addiction.