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No one is going to do whats needed. I'd start by
- cutting def 25%,

Sure, just be prepared for the resulting loss of jobs. Union workers build ships for the Navy, planes for all four branches, and ground vehicles for the Army & Marines. And let's not forget all of the ancillary jobs created around a military base... Close Fort Bragg, and both the fast food and sex industry will see a 5% drop in annual profitability.

- Over haul SS and Med Care.
- Pass real HC reform.

Just think how much taxes could be cut if the government were out of healthcare altogether.....

- Start a domestic Peace Corp of sorts. The US infrastructure is broken and needs over haul. Welfare gets cut to 6 months or so. Those who are unemployed can start there, learn a trade and move on.

That's actually reasonable.

- Increase CAFE regulations.
- Invest in public trans for city/state and national transportation.
- Increase fuel tax gradually as transportation becomes more available.

Ah, yes, we should all want to help fund those who choose to live in concrete jungles...

How about sending welfare recipients to North Manhattan, KS, where they don't need public transport and can walk to work?

- Flat rate tax of about 10% on all income (not just W2). No deductions. May be 15% or 20% for corporations who do business on US soil (May be then GE will pay some tax).

Works for me. I'd see my taxes cut in at least half, even without the deductions for kids.

- Recall a majority of US troops abroad.
- ban any former fed employee from having any business contact with the Fed for at least 20 yrs.

So the guy who worked as a TSA screener to put themselves thru college should be barred from working for a company who happens to sell stuff to the Department of Agriculture?...

- ban all donations to elections. All elections are run on public funds. I'm tired of having elections bought and sold by the highest bidder.

How about putting limits on how much the media gets to talk about elections instead? I'd rather here what the highest bidder has to say, and less about what the talking heads on the various three-letter networks have to say about them.

- no tax exemptions for religions.

Too bad, because I know you find it offensive, but organized religion tends to picks up the slack where federal and state programs routinely drop the ball. When we were foster parents, it was the faith based organizations who had the resources available to actually train parents how not to abuse their children.... The state could barely fund getting investigations done, much less try to put any emphasis on avoiding having kids put into state custody in the first place...

But go ahead, take away the tax exempt status, and outreach programs will likely go away.

There are certainly abuses of the religion exemption (e.g. vast property holdings of a couple large organizations based in Italy and Utah) but for the most part, the return on investment far exceeds whatever incremental taxes you might get from taking away the exemption.

That will be for starters. Not sure what will happen in my second term lol

I don't think you'll need to worry about a first term...
 
Now that the budget battle for FY11 has been settled, who were the adults that stepped up?

I give high marks to Speaker Boehner and President Obama for being the adults in the room during this thing.

The Senate leadership (D & R), in my opinion, acted foolishly during this debacle.

Boehner, it appears, did a good job in keeping the Tea Party radicals in check, while Obama did the same for the most liberal faction of his party.

They will need to continue to display this leadership if we are to avoid the total gridlock that would most certainly take place if the radical factions of the parties are allowed free reign.


Why didn't the dems resolve this last October?

Obama went to Willie's burg....photo op only....no child left behind....
 
I am going to take issue with describing the Tea Party as radicals.
I did not say that all Tea Party caucus members were radicals.

If I inferred that, then I apologize. I meant that he needed to control the radical Tea Party members.
 
I did not say that all Tea Party caucus members were radicals.

If I inferred that, then I apologize. I meant that he needed to control the radical Tea Party members.


This will be a big test for the House Speaker. We will see how much control he wields over the Tea-Party radicals.


Radicals? People sick and tired of deficit spending and run away government are radicals?
 
Why didn't the dems resolve this last October?
There is no (credible) excuse for the lack of a passed budget bill last year.

The Democrats were not in a compromising mood. President Obama should have pushed harder to get a budget passed before the election.

I should have invested in Microsoft back in the early '80's. ...

I never should have....never mind...
 
You are spot on, however it will never resonate with the hardcore liberal progressives in this thread. They think this is a revenue problem rather then a spending problem. Thats why they have yet to offer any spending cuts, rather just tax more and more to keep up with their out of control spending addiction.


Truth is that the attack should come from both sides of the coin, Revenue & Spending.

However if you go back to the intent of the Founding Fathers which was a very LIMITED Federal Government as defined by the US Constitution they another problems appears for our colleagues on the left of the political fence. If you shrunk the Federal Government to the point of returning it to it's relative size then you'd have a budget surplus and you could eliminate the Federal Income Tax.

This would require far to much common sense for either the Republicans or the Democrats to embrace.

Just for a historical perspective,

Debt as a % of GDP has only been higher in 1945-46-47 AFTER WWII
Interestingly enough, Tax Revenues as a percentage of GDP has remained relatively stable at between 15-20% since the end of the war.

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Based on the historical data it would appear that the first place to attack would be a balanced budget with reduction of expenses being the primary tool to achieve the goal. Next the Congress could easily create a formula on the tax side that is tied directly to revenue as a percent of GDP, Times are good, then the Government has a surplus and uses it BY LAW to reduce the debt or saves it as a "Rainy Day Fund" for recessions. Either way the solution starts on the spending side and the decrease needs to be swift and significant, Our future depends upon it.
 
There is no (credible) excuse for the lack of a passed budget bill last year.

The Democrats were not in a compromising mood. President Obama should have pushed harder to get a budget passed before the election.

I should have invested in Microsoft back in the early '80's. ...

I never should have....never mind...

No the dems knew they were about to lose one if not two houses and tried to limit the damage by not getting into a debate before the election on their out of control reckless spending.Translate that to fear of those radical tea party members.
 
This will be a big test for the House Speaker. We will see how much control he wields over the Tea-Party radicals.


Radicals? People sick and tired of deficit spending and run away government are radicals?
Short answer...yes.

If they want to get something done in our current system, then they will need to adopt a different tone.

They can yell and scream all they want, that does not translate into legislative action.

There is a process in place. It has worked for many years. As much as you and others want to short circuit it, your House Speaker knows he will have to act as an adult, and keep the Bachman/Palin crowd in check if he plans on getting anything done.
 
Short answer...yes.

If they want to get something done in our current system, then they will need to adopt a different tone.

They can yell and scream all they want, that does not translate into legislative action.

There is a process in place. It has worked for many years. As much as you and others want to short circuit it, your House Speaker knows he will have to act as an adult, and keep the Bachman/Palin crowd in check if he plans on getting anything done.

It translated into legislative action last year Dude.

You kill me with your left wing perceptions. Lets just spend away until the whole game collapses.
And the process you speak of was perverted and short circuited by non other than the present 3 branches in the last congress Dude.
 
Short answer...yes.

If they want to get something done in our current system, then they will need to adopt a different tone.

They can yell and scream all they want, that does not translate into legislative action.

There is a process in place. It has worked for many years. As much as you and others want to short circuit it, your House Speaker knows he will have to act as an adult, and keep the Bachman/Palin crowd in check if he plans on getting anything done.


Civility is a worthy though somewhat lofty goal given our culture of in your face reality TV and Jerry Springer and the like.

Perhaps the only way to be heard is to shout and scream in order to be heard above the cacophony of the MSM and Talk Radio
 
It translated into legislative action last year Dude.
We shall see who is effective.
An election is not legislative action. Newly elected members of Congress get a real dose of reality when they realize that everything they preach is not the gospel, especially when they actually have to make it happen in our system.
 
Sure, just be prepared for the resulting loss of jobs. Union workers build ships for the Navy, planes for all four branches, and ground vehicles for the Army & Marines. And let's not forget all of the ancillary jobs created around a military base... Close Fort Bragg, and both the fast food and sex industry will see a 5% drop in annual profitability.



Just think how much taxes could be cut if the government were out of healthcare altogether.....



That's actually reasonable.



Ah, yes, we should all want to help fund those who choose to live in concrete jungles...

How about sending welfare recipients to North Manhattan, KS, where they don't need public transport and can walk to work?



Works for me. I'd see my taxes cut in at least half, even without the deductions for kids.



So the guy who worked as a TSA screener to put themselves thru college should be barred from working for a company who happens to sell stuff to the Department of Agriculture?...



How about putting limits on how much the media gets to talk about elections instead? I'd rather here what the highest bidder has to say, and less about what the talking heads on the various three-letter networks have to say about them.



Too bad, because I know you find it offensive, but organized religion tends to picks up the slack where federal and state programs routinely drop the ball. When we were foster parents, it was the faith based organizations who had the resources available to actually train parents how not to abuse their children.... The state could barely fund getting investigations done, much less try to put any emphasis on avoiding having kids put into state custody in the first place...

But go ahead, take away the tax exempt status, and outreach programs will likely go away.

There are certainly abuses of the religion exemption (e.g. vast property holdings of a couple large organizations based in Italy and Utah) but for the most part, the return on investment far exceeds whatever incremental taxes you might get from taking away the exemption.



I don't think you'll need to worry about a first term...

I think the money saved on defense could go elsewhere in society to off set most of the job loss. Then there is the state of our infrastructure that could always use some of those minds and hands that may be displaced. I think a lot of the defense money saved could come from waste. The projects that are under bid and then then run into over runs. Projects that are not needed or out of date before they are off the drawing boards (B-1, Sgt York gun, SDI).


I don't want the government in health care, I just want it reformed so it is affordable and so that everyone is covered. I do not believe it is reasonable for someone to be faced with bankruptcy or a huge debt in order to be healthy.

I do not understand your concrete jungle reference.

I figure if everyone would pay the taxes, we would see an increase in revenue. Seems from most of what I have read, the middle/.lower class would see a tax cut while the richer/rich/uberrich would see a tax increase because they would actually have to pay taxes as opposed to the Warren Buffet's that get so many tax breaks and end up paying less. Also the GE's would end up paying their fair share. Hell, we might even have extra taxes left over.

I guess I should have elaborated. When I was referring to the Fed workers I meant high level folks. People like Congressional aids (may be not high level but they have access and know people), Cabinet members, members of Congress, officers, department heads ... People who were in a position to make decisions and who had connections in government. The revolving door needs to be welded shut.

I see your point but Im not sure how that would work. The SCOTUS already said my idea was a violation of the COTUS when they said corporations are people and can donate what they want to whom they want. I am pretty sure your idea definitely violates the COTUS. I would not mind seeing several groups prepare 'dossiers' on the candidates. Have the papers address policy issues, voting records .. etc. Debates would be mandatory and they would be real debates and there would be several. They don't know the questions and there would be, for example, economics experts there to deal with the economic issues that when the candidates state some BS, they can be address right then and there.

I said they need to loose their tax exempt status, they can still get deductions or exemptions for certain things. I fail to see why the .com church near one of the malls here in TX deserves a tax break for a multi million dollar church with video and audio equipment that any high school or college would envy. If they collect money for charitable work, there is no reason those funds should not be tax exempt. The G-V, not so much, the Crystal Cathedral, not so much. You get a deduction for your kids, so can they.

I recently read a study (don't have a link sorry) that suggested that only about 6% of the charity stuff comes from faith based out reach. The rest is done by government programs.

I know. No one from any side who actually wants to address the issues would have a chance at office. This is why we are stuck with the idiots we have in office.
 
We have a church near us with an auditorium that could make Broadway blush. It's actually the largest single-purpose venue in Illinois (there are multi-purpose venues which seat more people, but they're designed as sports arenas first & foremost).

Some call it theater, but if that's what brings in the people, who am I to question their methods? They raised over $1M for Haiti relief in one week. So while their methods, not at all what I was brought up with, do have some serious positive impact. And maybe that's what scares people about churches like Willow Creek, Saddleback, and Lakewood-- they've successfully harnessed technology and can reach huge numbers of people and buck the trend of waning church attendance...


The reference to the concrete jungle was in reference to you suggesting more taxation to benefit urban transit. The farmer in Kansas doesn't want to be funding mass transit in New York anymore than some guy in New York wants to be funding an interstate in Kansas.
 
I still do not see a reason for them to have blanket tax exempt status.

I understand that they may not wish to fund things that they may or may not directly benefit them. How ever the reduction in fuel usage will reduce the cost to them. The less I have to spend on fuel will leave me more money to spend on their goods. I do not receive any direct benefit from helping fund public schools ( I have no children) but I see the need for an educated populace. Your children will grow up one day and run things. That will indirectly benefit me. And even if it did not, I still believe it is the right thing to do.

We are one country and we all need to watch out for each other. I need to help you because one day I will need you to help me. If we continue to have this "me, me, me' attitude we as a nation will never get any where. "United States of America"
 
We shall see who is effective.
An election is not legislative action. Newly elected members of Congress get a real dose of reality when they realize that everything they preach is not the gospel, especially when they actually have to make it happen in our system.


Tell those who sit outside the beltway now that the people did not exercise legislative action.

The 'dose of reality' you mention is whats wrong in DC.. That needs to change and its going to change by exercising right to free speech and yelling.

You characterize those tea party members as radicals...Guess those clowns in Wi were patriots?
 
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