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[dapoes]

Why Experience Pain, When You’ve Got “Spenditol”?

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[SparrowHawk]

Yes that it correct. The democrats have proposed some vaugue spending cuts stretched out over 10 years. Knowing that they cant bind any future congress to it. So its all smoke and mirrors. At least with Cut Cap Balance it makes it a constitutional amendment to actually stick to it.


1. Cut – We must make discretionary and mandatory spending reductions that would cut the deficit in half next year.
2. Cap – We need statutory, enforceable caps to align federal spending with average revenues at 18% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), with automatic spending reductions if the caps are breached.
3. Balance – We must send to the states a Balanced Budget Amendment (BBA) with strong protections against federal tax increases and a Spending Limitation Amendment (SLA) that aligns spending with average revenues as described above.
Democrats seem to have given up, proposing even more borrowing in response to our massive debt addiction.

You're relatively new here, so please pardon me for not welcoming you to the fray. Welcome.

Personally, Generally speaking I'm an Equal Opportunity Offender when it comes to the Republicrats & the Demicams. Nothing more than two wings on the same bird of prey.

Lately with Ron Paul getting some real traction, the Republican Party has my ear a bit more as they are drifting towards redefining the role of the Federal Government in the lives of the average Jane/Joe who draw a paycheck. All of that being said I'm not terribly comfortable with a Balanced Budget Amendment for various reasons.

1. It is being brought up now as a possible way to prevent ONE man from driving the country to ruin.
2. It will take forever to be ratified if it ever is.
3. It alters the delicate system of checks and balances set up by the Founding Fathers.
4. It's unworkable in times of crisis.

A Balanced Budget Amendment is a good idea if you want to get elected or re-elected. The other equally dangerous notion is tying Federal Spending to a percentage of GDP. Current bright idea (Note dripping sarcasm) of 18% isn't a horribly bad number. However bear in mind with that kind of law in place we would have been unable to fight WWII. Given the current situation if that hair brained idea goes forward I guess we'd all best brush up on Pushtu, Farsi and Arabic.

 

[7days]

You're relatively new here, so please pardon me for not welcoming you to the fray. Welcome.

Personally, Generally speaking I'm an Equal Opportunity Offender when it comes to the Republicrats & the Demicams. Nothing more than two wings on the same bird of prey.

Lately with Ron Paul getting some real traction, the Republican Party has my ear a bit more as they are drifting towards redefining the role of the Federal Government in the lives of the average Jane/Joe who draw a paycheck. All of that being said I'm not terribly comfortable with a Balanced Budget Amendment for various reasons.

1. It is being brought up now as a possible way to prevent ONE man from driving the country to ruin.
2. It will take forever to be ratified if it ever is.
3. It alters the delicate system of checks and balances set up by the Founding Fathers.
4. It's unworkable in times of crisis.

A Balanced Budget Amendment is a good idea if you want to get elected or re-elected. The other equally dangerous notion is tying Federal Spending to a percentage of GDP. Current bright idea (Note dripping sarcasm) of 18% isn't a horribly bad number. However bear in mind with that kind of law in place we would have been unable to fight WWII. Given the current situation if that hair brained idea goes forward I guess we'd all best brush up on Pushtu, Farsi and Arabic.

Thanks for kind welcome sir. Im not terribly thrilled with the BBA either, however the ideas that the Democrats have presented are ludicrous as the least.

 

[777 fixer]

That's rather funny, your perspective on Beck.
Maybe you should do more research before spouting off.
Beck does.
Goebbels, not Hitler used techniques from Wilson's Committee on Public Information.
Edward Louis Bernays worked for CPI which provided spin on many issues for the Wilson administration. Apparently Bernays and a few others at CPI knew how to spin quite well.
CPI and Bernays works caught the eye of Joey Goebbels and the rest is known as the holocaust.

You must have left the room when Beck covered that part.




Well here's a little tidbit from a blog on your favorite online rag Salon:

I remember a book I read called PR: A Social History of Spin. The author discussed how the Nazi Minister of Propaganda, Dr. Josef Goebbels, was an ardent student of Mr. Bernays, despite the fact that Mr. Bernays was Jewish. Goebbels desperately wanted to meet Mr. Bernays and apparently sent numerous books to him to be autographed. We don't know if Mr. Bernays autographed them, but Goebbels claimed that he did. Goebbels, who had a PhD in philosophy (which is crucial in terms of understanding how he was able to understand Bernays and apply his writings in the way that he did), apparently had an even larger library on propaganda than Mr. Bernays and had not only read all of his books, but had largely memorized a good deal of them as well. Goebbels was able to utilize Bernays' ideas on propaganda in a manner that was the most malicious and homicidal ever seen in the 20th century: to support the Final Solution.

Through Bernays pioneering work on entertainment and using subtle stereotyping as a medium to incrementally create a favorable mood or climate for a favored action, Goebbels was able to increase German approval for the final solution through the utilization of entertaining films such as "Jud Suss."

B) B)

Considering nothing you posted proved the Glen Beck inspired conspiracy theory that Woodrow Wilson is somehow responislbe for the Nazi propoganda and their subsequent crimes says that you are the one who has to crack a book or two.

 

[777 fixer]

The Dems haven't shown any inkling towards fiscal responsibility so yes, they are to blame. If they were making serious gestures, that would be a different story, but they aren't.
Obama and his party are the ones who have escalated this boondoggle beyond imagination and now they want to spend more money. GOP wants to reign in spending and size and they are wrong?

Look what happens when there's an effort to end $20 billion in subsidies for the oil industry. The GOP kills it. Does fiscal conservative Paul Ryan advocate ending farm subsidies that have cost $261 billion in the past fifteen years even though the biggest recpients are corporate farms? No he does not, or maybe that's why he does not. When there's talk of cutting the defense budget what does the GOP do? Wrap themselves in the flag and say we cannot cut the DOD budget in time of war. Even though a lot of the programs have little to do with fighting the enemy we now face.

 

[delldude]

Considering nothing you posted proved the Glen Beck inspired conspiracy theory that Woodrow Wilson is somehow responislbe for the Nazi propoganda and their subsequent crimes says that you are the one who has to crack a book or two.

I wasn't aware I was obligated to prove some Beckie BS, only that I know you don't know what you're talking about.

Maybe you ought to read that book mentioned in your sacred rag Salon.

😛

 

[delldude]

Look what happens when there's an effort to end $20 billion in subsidies for the oil industry. The GOP kills it. Does fiscal conservative Paul Ryan advocate ending farm subsidies that have cost $261 billion in the past fifteen years even though the biggest recpients are corporate farms? No he does not, or maybe that's why he does not. When there's talk of cutting the defense budget what does the GOP do? Wrap themselves in the flag and say we cannot cut the DOD budget in time of war. Even though a lot of the programs have little to do with fighting the enemy we now face.

Explain these subsidies for nasty big oil......I am confused.......how exactly is big oil subsidized?

Please explain so a two year old and myself can understand.

 

[777 fixer]

Explain these subsidies for nasty big oil......I am confused.......how exactly is big oil subsidized?

Please explain so a two year old and myself can understand.

They are called tax breaks. Tax breaks that most other industries could only wish for.

 

[777 fixer]

I wasn't aware I was obligated to prove some Beckie BS, only that I know you don't know what you're talking about.

Maybe you ought to read that book mentioned in your sacred rag Salon.

😛

So in other words you've got nothing to back up your latest conspiracy theory. Given your tendancy to fall for unsubstantiated BS, i.e. birtherism, it would seem you are the one who has no idea as to what he's talking about.

 

[SparrowHawk]

They are called tax breaks. Tax breaks that most other industries could only wish for.

You may want to do some additional research! I'll caution you however as if "Big Oil" has you upset wait until you look at the bigger picture. You'll be on here spitting nails right along with me. It's really not funny as it is one of the ways we've lost our way is the use of the tax code for a variety of agendas as opposed to merely collecting enough money to run the country in accordance to the COTUS.

Look at the 8000 plus "earmarks" in the stimulus package and see how many of them include company specific tax breaks. I haven't looked because I'm angry enough.

 

[delldude]

So in other words you've got nothing to back up your latest conspiracy theory. Given your tendancy to fall for unsubstantiated BS, i.e. birtherism, it would seem you are the one who has no idea as to what he's talking about.

You're losing your cool Hot Dog.......no conspiracy theory.......LOL....only in your mind.
Your boy Beck never claimed some type conspiracy either.
Already proved it and you still don't know what you're talking about....LOL

Go look it up in your SOP Mein Kampf....LOL

Have a nice day......

 

[delldude]

They are called tax breaks. Tax breaks that most other industries could only wish for.

I never saw oil specific tax breaks, don't think evil nasty big oil does either.

 

[dapoes]

The House passed CCBA, the Senate killed it. The WH has threatened to veto TWO proposals now. Who is holding the US hostage again?

 

[tech2101]

Best comment yet on this Debt ceiling debate:

July 28th, 2011
11:12 am
An asteroid is headed toward earth, the Tea Party says it won't have an impact and we don't need to do anything. The Democrats and Republicans are arguing over what color to paint the rocket that will be used blow up the asteroid before it hits us. The asteroid is getting closer and closer...
 

...in response to a NY Times article.

 

[delldude]

How big is the asteroid.