Fse Why Vote Iam?

[Solidarity]

Why would I want to vote for IAM and be stuck with a contract untill 2009?

 

[REACC1]

Concider an alliance with the IBT+CWA. All would benifit by a union representing all airport functions.

 

[oncearound]

And another thing...Why would I ever vote for the IAM when their contract allows the company to outsource my job. That's like voting to lose my job! How did that EVER make it into the contract?

 

[wings396]

And another thing...Why would I ever vote for the IAM when their contract allows the company to outsource my job. That's like voting to lose my job! How did that EVER make it into the contract?

That fine little deal made it into the contract, because those who voted it in were not going to be the Victims of it. The Company with the IAM's blessing added BDL & PVD to the Class 1 list just days before the contract vote so that a "YES" vote would be Stacked in their favor. Once those 2 stations were added the company had over 60% of the eligible voters who wouldn't have their jobs outsourced...AKA, Sold the rest of the System down the River!!

 

[john john]

Don't forget catering in PHL

 

[robbedagain]

Don't forget catering in PHL

when did the catering go? was it after the june 5 closing of the cities such as mdt abe etc etc?

 

[Solidarity]

And another thing...Why would I ever vote for the IAM when their contract allows the company to outsource my job. That's like voting to lose my job! How did that EVER make it into the contract?

Who has a full copy of the IAM current contract with all details of outsourcing?

 

[barbeetantrums]

Why would I want to vote for IAM and be stuck with a contract untill 2009?

Because the pay scale is much higher than that provided in the TWU contract.

 

[Solidarity]

Because the pay scale is much higher than that provided in the TWU contract.

Is it all about PAY?

 

[barbeetantrums]

Is it all about PAY?

Please don't make me do a comparison of pay scales. King of the Hill is coming on.

 

[Solidarity]

Please don't make me do a comparison of pay scales. King of the Hill is coming on.

No you don't have to break it down ...but....what about all the other bennies.....vacation, sick, paid parking?

 

[barbeetantrums]

No you don't have to break it down ...but....what about all the other bennies.....vacation, sick, paid parking?

Does vacation pay the bills? Does it clothe the kids?
If I call in sick one too many times at AWA, I will be fired. Rarely do I call in sick.
Parking is provided at company expense at US Airways.

 

[PITbull]

And another thing...Why would I ever vote for the IAM when their contract allows the company to outsource my job. That's like voting to lose my job! How did that EVER make it into the contract?

The IAM contract was abrogated both the ramp and mechanic and related in BK in Jan. 2005. The company gave the mechanics and related and ramp their final proposal for them to vote on after their contracts were abrogated. The leadership presented it for membership vote and the members ratified the company's final offer. If the membership would have voted it down, the IAM members would have and would have struck the airline.

It is the company who presented their final offer. It was the members themselves who could have voted it up or down by majority. I don't care what union you belong to...presented with the same scenerio, the obligation the leadership had was to send out the last final company proposal, after the judge allowed for abrogation of the IAM contract.

I personally do not believe the company acted in "good faith" with the IAM. And I believe that the judge did not consider the "parties acting in good faith" provision in an 1113 motion. There are reasons managment wanted the contract to be abrogated and why they motioned for an 1113:

A. They wanted the Utility outsourced, and they needed to eliminate over 1,000 jobs. Basically, their total elimination.
B. They wanted to outsource the mechanics work, furlough, and not honor the arbitration ruling.
C. They needed to dump the IAM pensions.

THere was no way the IAM could or would have settled or agreed to a T/A under the above conditions. So, the IAM ran out of time and the judge ruled for abrogation. THis is the same judge that approved the "Plan of Reorganization of an AWA merger in BK #2 and was also the presiding Judge in Bk #1.

Take it from there and put it together.

 

[Harry Callahan]

Because the pay scale is much higher than that provided in the TWU contract.

Consider the possiblity of no contract at all. I promise you DO NOT want to go there.

 

[barbeetantrums]

Consider the possiblity of no contract at all. I promise you DO NOT want to go there.

No fudge. Really?