Fyi - Dave Recorded His Weekly Msg Today
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Leave now, and don't let the door hit you in the ### on the way out.a320av8r said:
The ramp in PHL isn't run by gangs. We don't allow management to crap all over us, which occurs in most of the other cities. We do a great job considering the lack of tools (equipment, facilities, and manpower) the company gives us. One hand washes the other in PHL. There are a lot of things we overcome (and overlook) to get the job done, and there are a lot of things management overlooks.
If you're talking Union leadership towards other members, it's not quite a gang. LOL. The PHL union leaders have done a good job in the past, but they're out of touch with the workforce now. You can't find any of the top dogs, and I don't think they could find the belly of an aircraft anymore if they had to. It's a shame, but it's a necessary evil, and hopefully things will change later this year.
Bottom line though is that without PHL U wouldn't even exist right now, and may not have made it out of the mid 90s. 🙂
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If Dave's plan is to add more planes, but use the exact same head count, then why does he want to open our contracts? Why did he take the planes out in the first place? If it is not to bring employees from furlough and only use the same number of employees, then i can deduce that he wants us to open contracts to ensure "shareholder value, profit to ensure one beneficiary....Dr. Bronner. We as labor have no incentive to "open our contracts". And threatening our jobs, is not going to do it.
A320AVEEATOR,
Regarding quantity vs. quality........Last time you looked at your contract, where exactly is the "quality"???????
Any "work rule" gives, and productivity enhancements, is to DECREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THUS THE JOB! Have you not learned from Winter restructuring agreement, and managment violations of those provisions, OR DO YOU NOT WORK FOR U "mainline"????
A320AVEEATOR,
Regarding quantity vs. quality........Last time you looked at your contract, where exactly is the "quality"???????
Any "work rule" gives, and productivity enhancements, is to DECREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THUS THE JOB! Have you not learned from Winter restructuring agreement, and managment violations of those provisions, OR DO YOU NOT WORK FOR U "mainline"????
Ugh, is it possible for you to answer a question without accusing me of something? I honestly want to know ... can he schedule the workforce in such a way as to operate 60 additional planes without violating the contracts?PITbull said:
Ok, so ... back to what I asked before then ... what do people think of adding 60 additional mainline aircraft? Can US do it profitably via recalls? If not, what are the options? i.e., Dave in his message said his team is trying to figure out how to do this without labor's involvement. Given that, what do people proprose he do?PITbull said:
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🙄 Looks like chapter 11 coming soon again .This time the unions
wont have to worry about any contracts because there wont be anymore.
wont have to worry about any contracts because there wont be anymore.
I was just asking. I hope this airline succeeds, I have always enjoyed using them. I have encountered delays and cancellation on every airline I have flown. Iaccept that as part of the experience. By and large though, US Airways has definately been the best experience when it comes to where it flies, location of clubs, and the employees I have encountered. I just haven't read any analysis or articles lately that give US Airways a chance unless it drastically changes the way it does business. It seems that the wage cuts have and other changes have only delayed or slowed further deterioration of the busness. It appears structural changes need to be made and growth of the revenue base is paramount. The sucess or better financials of US Airways competitiors(especially the LCC's) seem attributable to the fact they utilize their assets more per day and have lower head counts per ASM. It would seem that US Airways could achieve that without further layoffs by growing into the current headcount(the 60 aircraft) and increase revenue more than cost allowing it to compete. If I were there I would at least want my leadership to listen to the plan and what changes are wanted, including what effect it would have on work, days off, etc. Since it appears US Airways is in the slow spiral back to bankruptcy with no changes it at least would present some kind of option to choose or not choose. As much as it would suck to be furloughed and see productivity enhancements negotiated it has to be bettter than the company shrinking or going away. If US Airways becomes a growing sustainable entity, retirements if nothing else will allow for recalls.
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US,USFlyer said:
This managmenent had Labor's involvment, in a b-i-g way. To even imply that we are not involved now , is Dave's stupidity in filling up space on the "recording".
He needs to focus on fixing the route structure, adding more flights, increasing productivity of the airplanes that presently fly approx 10 hours and fly them up to 12 hours, which chip stated, increases productivity by 20%. The "time balance system" of both f/as and pilots (pilots has not gone into effect yet) will yeild managment great savings and much productivity. Pref bid system had not been instituted yet for pilots and f/as and again will yield managment great, great savings. Simplify and rationionlize the fares. Make them consistant NOT convoluted. Roll the hubs, add the RJs, (which hasn't gone into effect yet).
ADDRESS THE REVENUE SIDE OF THE EQUATION, which mangment has yet to do.
Improve the product, hire more cleaners to clean the a/c, start "anew" with employee morale, and put away forever the draconian, punitive policies ASAP. And STOP violating our contracts. Move away from the "outsource" issue and recognize you lost this. Mend and build bridges specifically with the IAM and the rest of the employees.
Management has YET to address THEIR OWN PRODUCTIVITY ENHANCEMENTS. Or is there none for mangment?
Managment has just stolen approx 5 min. for every flight crew member per "leg", just by changing the ACARS calculating our flight time COMMENCING January 1, 2004. AND WE DIDN'T EVEN NEGOTIATIE THAT ONE! Huge savings for managment!
Now, what is it that you are asking of me???? To participate in What?????? We are already P-A-R-T-C-I-P-A-T-I-N-G, We are asking managment to "join us"!
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Contracting is the only thing left cheap labor and no benifitsHaving lived in Pennsylvania all of my life and having visited different areas of this country - I continue to choose to live here. As far as the mentality goes - it's not simply a PA thing - it's a GREED THING and had CORPORATE AMERICA not been so greedy in the first place - you would have not have had a need for UNIONS. Unfortunately history repeats itself. U got greedy and tried to grow to fast and they have been paying for it ever since. By the way, when USAIR bought Piedmont and PSA, U brought your pay scale to our level. I don't remember hearing many complaints over that one?a320av8r said:
Anyone?
