Gas Prices -- the Cause

[KCFlyer]

Data released yesterday shows that voters overwhelmingly believe it is more important to find new sources of energy. Sixty-seven percent (67%) believe McCain shares this priority while just 29% believe Obama holds that same view.[/i]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...on_energy_issue

Actually, I don't think they understood the question...when asked "is it more important to find new sources of energy", most respondents thought they asked "is it more important to find new sources of oil". Because the mere thought of actually reducing the amount we consume is anathema to the average American who ony wants it to be more affordable to fill the Suburban.

 

[Seatacus]

Because the mere thought of actually reducing the amount we consume is anathema to the average American who ony wants it to be more affordable to fill the Suburban.

Don,t you think the average American wants it to be more affordable to fill up anything that uses gas. I bet even Prius owners would like cheaper fuel. Heck, I can't even afford to mow my lawn and my lawn will probably turn to crap and die. With no lawn I will have to buy carbon offsets to replace what my lawn did for clean air. I feel like Bob Dole, I just can't win.

 

[tech2101]

Don,t you think the average American wants it to be more affordable to fill up anything that uses gas. I bet even Prius owners would like cheaper fuel. Heck, I can't even afford to mow my lawn and my lawn will probably turn to crap and die. With no lawn I will have to buy carbon offsets to replace what my lawn did for clean air. I feel like Bob Dole, I just can't win.

I'm going to get a couple of goats.

They save gas and are good for the environment...

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[Cosworth]

Don,t you think the average American wants it to be more affordable to fill up anything that uses gas. I bet even Prius owners would like cheaper fuel. Heck, I can't even afford to mow my lawn and my lawn will probably turn to crap and die. With no lawn I will have to buy carbon offsets to replace what my lawn did for clean air. I feel like Bob Dole, I just can't win.

I bet no one cut grass before the gas lawn mower became affordable huh?

No gas and good exercise

I have one and it works just fine.

 

[KCFlyer]

Don,t you think the average American wants it to be more affordable to fill up anything that uses gas. I bet even Prius owners would like cheaper fuel. Heck, I can't even afford to mow my lawn and my lawn will probably turn to crap and die. With no lawn I will have to buy carbon offsets to replace what my lawn did for clean air. I feel like Bob Dole, I just can't win.

Actually, I wish Americans would stop a second and think of all the things that use oil besides their car. We'd rather have cheap gas for our Suburbans that are used 90% of the time as the daily commuter vehicle...occupied only by the driver - to and from work. Meanwhile there are so many other things that impact our daily lives that are derived from or use oil. But it's better to have cheap gas in a gas hog...until those OTHER things start costing us more.

 

[Seatacus]

I bet no one cut grass before the gas lawn mower became affordable huh?

I have one and it works just fine.

My wife refuses to use anything that's not self-propelled. I bet you're going to have fun with that statement.

 

[jimntx]

Hey, when you leave doors open, people tend to walk through them.

As far as the push mower, I learned to cut grass using my grandfather's push mower. Though I don't insist on self-propelled because my current yard isn't really big enough to justify that extra expense, I doubt seriously that I will go back to a push mower.

 

[tech2101]

I bet no one cut grass before the gas lawn mower became affordable huh?

No gas and good exercise

I have one and it works just fine.

Try to do 26 acres with that.

 

[KCFlyer]

Try to do 26 acres with that.

Fair enough...but you'd be surprised to see the number of folks driving a 20 horsepower John Deere to mow their suburban lot that is 1/5 or if it's really big...1/4 of an acre.

 

[Cosworth]

My wife refuses to use anything that's not self-propelled. I bet you're going to have fun with that statement.

Thats all fins and dandy. JUst stop complaining about the cost of fuel because there are alternatives. If people choose not to take advantage of them, that this their problem and part of the problem. There are cars out there that make quite good mileage but people choose to drive pickups and SUV's which is their choice. Unfortunately, their choice is costing the rest of us big money and when fuel goes up again (which we all know it will) they will be bitching about the price of gas. We had a shot across the bow back in the 70's. The Japanese were smart enough to see wht was coming. We here in the US are dumb as a box of rocks and still cannot figure it out.

The average American wants a lot of stuff. The average American is also lazy, over weight and an idiot who is not willing to work for what they want. Does anyone else see the problem here?

 

[Cosworth]

Try to do 26 acres with that.

Perhaps I missed the part where he said he had 26 acres. I am not going to walk across country or take a horse drawn wagon when there are trains, planes and automobiles either. But if I need to go to the store on the corner, I'll take my bike or walk instead of wasting gas. It is simply a mater of making a reasonable effort. In this day and age, no expects someone with 26 acres to move by reel mower.

 

[tech2101]

Perhaps I missed the part where he said he had 26 acres. I am not going to walk across country or take a horse drawn wagon when there are trains, planes and automobiles either. But if I need to go to the store on the corner, I'll take my bike or walk instead of wasting gas. It is simply a mater of making a reasonable effort. In this day and age, no expects someone with 26 acres to move by reel mower.

Lighten up. It was a little sarcasm.

 

[Seatacus]

There are cars out there that make quite good mileage but people choose to drive pickups and SUV's which is their choice.

At what point does your auto's MPG have to reach to have everyone think your a really cool energy saving person? Are Prius drivers cooler than Surburban drivers? If I rode a scooter everywhere or rode a bike I would probably think Prius drivers are wasting gas. If I take an airplane instead of the train am I a fuel waster? Unless we walk everywhere I guess we are all part of the energy issue. Is it some more than others? I would rather not judge.

 

[KCFlyer]

At what point does your auto's MPG have to reach to have everyone think your a really cool energy saving person? Are Prius drivers cooler than Surburban drivers?

Naw, we're not cooler, but we aren't out there screaming about drilling in Alaska, off shore, or in Aunt Edna's backyard because it just cost us over a hundred bucks to fill the tank. Even with gas over $4 a gallon, I had a heckuva time pumping $40 into the empty tank...even two years ago, $40 barely made it half a tank in a Suburban. Yeah...I was disappointed when it cost me more than $30 to fill up, but not near as disappointed as the fellow in the Yukon at the next pump.

I was picking up my two labradors at the vet...I had my Prius (folded down the rear seat) and was having them hop up in the back. I was closing the hatch when a Yukon Denali pulled into the spot next to mine and unloaded his Yorkie. It was just him and his Yorkie, but I guess you need the cargo capacities of a Suburban for such tasks.

People can drive what they want - but we've been driving vehicles that get 12 to 15 mpg as our daily commuters for the past 20 years - we couldn't care less that what was being burned was something that took a few thousand years to form in the ground. We'd point to Europe and laugh because they were paying $4 to $5 a gallon for gas 5 years ago because of those nasty taxes over in Europe. But...while we were doing that, Europeans were creating more efficient vehicles - today some are seriously considering reducing our national speed limit to 55 mph again in an effort to save gas, while in Europe, they've got cars that can go in excess of 120 mph (and roads that allow that) which STILL provide considerably better mileage than the average American commuter vehicle gets.

 

[Seatacus]

Yeah...I was disappointed when it cost me more than $30 to fill up, but not near as disappointed as the fellow in the Yukon at the next pump.

Maybe not..........maybe he can afford it. If it was that painful he would buy a Prius.

I was picking up my two labradors at the vet...I had my Prius (folded down the rear seat) and was having them hop up in the back. I was closing the hatch when a Yukon Denali pulled into the spot next to mine and unloaded his Yorkie. It was just him and his Yorkie, but I guess you need the cargo capacities of a Suburban for such tasks.

Isn't that a little judgmental? How do you know what he uses his Yukon for? For all you know he could be using it to tow a large trailer to deliver food to the homeless shelter but today was his day off. When you purchase a Prius does Toyota give you a certificate that allows you to be critical of others who don't have one?

People can drive what they want - but we've been driving vehicles that get 12 to 15 mpg as our daily commuters for the past 20 years - we couldn't care less that what was being burned was something that took a few thousand years to form in the ground.

Yes, people can drive what they want. I just think we need to give them more credit than you do. I think they do care about using energy. Many can't afford a Prius and for some a Prius won't suit their needs. This is a free country. Free to choose what you drive and even free to criticize those who drive what you don't.