- Feb 18, 2007
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Check out this CBS! It's like they are throwing it in our faces like "Ha! Ha! We can get Christmas off and you can't!
I know I will be flamed for saying this but if you are a reserve please don't pick up any ETB trips for December. I know we all have bills to pay and we all really need that money for the holidays but BHs will be trying to drop their trips so they can have Christmas off. We never get that luxury unless we are sick. You all know we are going to be sitting around all of December and then right before Christmas we will start flying. So let's for one month boycott ETB and let those block holders fly the trips that they can't drop on the ETB. They have several options to get rid of trips and pick up new ones but let's make it harder for them. Not all of them will be able to SAP or do whatever else it is that they do to trip improve or get certain days off. LOL!
Subject: Protected Holiday SAPPING
Protected Holiday SAPPING - How Does It Work
By Carol Austin - AFA Scheduling Chairperson and
Tim Gunsteens - Manager, InFlight Technical Services
Sally was awarded a block worth 78+30 which was comprised of 3 day
trips on the 4th, 11th, 18th, 25th, and the 31st. In this example, each 3
day trip is worth 18+00 and the trip leading out has a credit of 6+30. When
she sat down to SAP, her main goal was to be off on Christmas Day.
The following will show you how she achieved her goal via SAP even
though Christmas Day was a protected holiday.
In her first bid, she tried to "Drop" Christmas Day outright (Section
9.C.3.e.) but understood that due to the requirement that a minimum
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of 15% trips remaining in open time (O/T), she was probably not going
to be awarded that bid (in her base SAP started with 30% O/T). Sally read
in a published SAP document that December 24th and December 25th
are treated as one holiday for the purposes of a touch in SAP, and that
touching one was like touching the other. Knowing that fact, she bid her
unit in the following way:
DATE TRIIP DROP EXPAND ADD AWARDED
Dec 25.18091 X 1. E. none
2. E. 4day/21 12345
3. E. 3day/22
4. E. 2day/23
5. E. 1day/24
By swapping a trip that originated on December 25th for a trip that
terminated on December 24th Sally did not increase the percentage of
holiday open time. If one of the trips in her ADD columns was available
at her seniority it would be awarded as long as it was legal. Additionally,
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Sally was trying to use SAP to better her position for future use of the bid
sheet (AIL). By using this technique she may be able to trip improve off her
SAP awarded trip and be off Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Sally
rejoices! Please note: Sally did not have to bid by way of the expanded bid
method above. She could have bid individual trip pairings but it was easier
for her to bid using the expansion feature.
Note: A holiday touch is a holiday touch EXCEPT for the following:
You would not be able to swap two ODAN trips (say 23rd & 24th) for one
trip that touches the holiday. Same would apply to Red Eyes that return
to base in the A.M.(say 25th ) and originate another red eye that night
(say 25th). Further, if the flight attendant had day trips on the 24th and
the system would not allow him/her to drop the two day trips (24th and 25th)
in exchange for one trip that touches the holiday(s).
Why? Because such activity increases the O/T pool for the affected
Holiday(s). In other words, two originating trips (24th & 25th) would be
going back into O/T and only one originating trip going out.
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Happy SAPping!
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I know I will be flamed for saying this but if you are a reserve please don't pick up any ETB trips for December. I know we all have bills to pay and we all really need that money for the holidays but BHs will be trying to drop their trips so they can have Christmas off. We never get that luxury unless we are sick. You all know we are going to be sitting around all of December and then right before Christmas we will start flying. So let's for one month boycott ETB and let those block holders fly the trips that they can't drop on the ETB. They have several options to get rid of trips and pick up new ones but let's make it harder for them. Not all of them will be able to SAP or do whatever else it is that they do to trip improve or get certain days off. LOL!