Health Care

[Ms Tree]

Doesn't that also speak to how bad minimum wage actually is?

Only for liberals.

Conservatives believe in the free market and are perfectly content with low wages if that is what the market dictates. After all, Corporations are people so it only follows that corporations are just doing whats good for everyone.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Well they raised the debt ceiling and also the Senate Republicans added almost $3 billion for dams in Kentucky (Mitch McConnel's home state). McConnel is the minority leader in the Senate and this money is being called the "Kentucky Kickback". Shows you the GOP are complete frauds. They accuse the president of frivolous spending then tack on this monstrosity to put us billions more in debt. But hypocrisy is the norm in Washington. I'd like to hear what MCI thinks about his boys digging the hole deeper. Wonder how Faux News is gonna spin this one?

 

[usa1]

Regestered independent here. Dems and Reps all crooks.

 

[Kev3188]

We haven't had a raise in 22 years, at least we know where are dues go ..... http://www.unionfact...America#leaders

Speaking of where the $$$ goes, maybe you should do a little research on who's behind the website you were so quick to link to.

There's all sorts of machinations at work aiming to crush your best interests, and you're doing nothing but helping 'em right along...

 

[WorldTraveler]

You are WRONG!!!!

Mitt Romney [font=Helvetica Neue']"If elected, I will repeal Obamacare on day one."[/font]

Mitt lost the 2012 election in the popular vote and electoral vote. The results say that Ocare is not fervently opposed by MOST Americans.

incorrect.

Obamacare has been unpopular in opinion polls done by multiple sources for years.
Ocare simply wasn't the only defining factor that Americans used to make their election decision.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Last week I was in line at the grocery store behind a lady talking on her Obama phone. She paid for twice as many groceries as I could afford with a EBT card. Then she walked out the door and put them in her brand new Mustang GT. Some people do have something to show for the debt? I wonder who she voted for in the last election?

Is she your girlfriend parked in your driveway? Afraid to marry her because you might have to pay your fair share?

 

[usa1]

If we marry we would lose some of our free government handouts.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Regestered independent here. Dems and Reps all crooks.

I am also Independent and I agree that Dems and Pubs are crooks.

 

[usa1]

I am also Independent and I agree that Dems and Pubs are crooks.

CEO's pocketed your retirement healthcare, union leaders party with your dues, career politicians are all the same.

I think I'll quit my job and move to blue a state and collect walfare, it pays better ... http://b-i.forbesimg...re-v-work-2.png

 

[OldGuy@AA]

CEO's pocketed your retirement healthcare, union leaders party with your dues, career politicians are all the same.

I think I'll quit my job and move to blue a state and collect walfare, it pays better ... http://b-i.forbesimg...re-v-work-2.png

Think about running for congress. You can do absolutely nothing. Get lots of time off. You can say nasty things about your adversaries and then go play golf with them or go out drinking with them. Lobbyists pay for all kinds of vacations and stuff and the American taxpayers pay for your healthcare and your obscene retirement. You can vote yourself a raise every year too.

 

[usa1]

Think about running for congress. You can do absolutely nothing. Get lots of time off. You can say nasty things about your adversaries and then go play golf with them or go out drinking with them. Lobbyists pay for all kinds of vacations and stuff and the American taxpayers pay for your healthcare and your obscene retirement. You can vote yourself a raise every year too.

You're right ...... that's even better than $48,000 a year in free walfare.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

OldGuy@AA You are correct when you say the TWU has failed us both. They gave away your job and they gave away my retirement. I think we can also agree that the Democratic Party is concerned for the non-working man. I will not dispute that at all.
Agreed.

OldGuy@AA What I am saying is that the GOP has been taken over by a bunch of Nazis. Their "My way or the highway" way of doing things is causing great hardship for us all.
I think if you look at all the victories of the Democratic Party this year you’re "My way or the highway" theory falls apart.

OldGuy@AA This group is there to make the rich even richer. Why should Mitt Romney pay 14% taxes on his income while we pay more than double that? This is what they do. The Democrats are equally worthless, but at least they want the Romneys of the country to pay their fair share of taxes. Trust fund kids don't work, they don't create jobs and they don't improve the economy. So why should they get a huge break on their investment income?
The idea behind giving wealthy people tax breaks is that they will have more capital to invest in business expansion or ventures. The government cannot tell people what to do with their money. What they can do is create an opportunity for investment.

OldGuy@AA I am sick and tired of when it comes time to vote I find myself voting against someone instead of for someone else.
I feel the same way. I just feel that way about liberals.

OldGuy@AA The GOP tells us how patriotic they are while they send our young men and women to war and then cut funding for their medical and mental health care when they come home.
I do not know enough about this topic to comment. I will look into it.

OldGuy@AA They want to force women to have babies and then deny them any kind of financial or medical aid when she delivers.
Why should the taxpayers provide financial and medical aid? Have you ever heard of Nadya Suleman (Octo Mom)? She had 6 kids when she got pregnant. Now she has 14. She was on welfare when she had 6. Guess who gets to pay to raise her kids? Guess where she got the money to pay for in vitro? That’s right. YOU. I am sure you do not mind working 40 hours a week paying UNION dues while your UNION funds a libtard party that fights for her right to sit on her butt and pop kids out while collecting a check on your back.

OldGuy@AA They export jobs overseas to foreign countries where they use slave labor to produce their products.
No they do not. That is Corporate America. If you do not think there are businesses headed by Democrats that offshore jobs you are delusional.

OldGuy@AA Yeah the Dems throw money at people who don't want to work and they have all kinds of ideas on how to spend money, but they seem to have more moderates in their midst than the GOP.
Let’s make something clear. The Obama administration has spent more money than any other administration in the history of America COMBINED.

You claim the Democratic Party is moderate. I claim they have done nothing but attack the economy and constitution for the last 20 years. I claim they have attacked working class America. I claim they have hindered personal development of the individual. The only difference between your claim and mine is I can back mine up.

OldGuy@AA People like Ted Cruz and Canter will destroy this country. We need the government to provide certain things and these guys don't want to spend our money on them. They don't care about roads or any infrastructure at all. They want more tax cuts for their rich benefactors and luxurious pensions for themselves while they deny government workers and police and firemen their pensions.
Didn’t someone on this very thread make a remark about “Ike” building up the infrastructure? The idea that a Republican politician would not want to support infrastructure which is the very thing that makes their “rich benefactors” rich is ludicrous. The fact is you cannot have healthy business without healthy infrastructure.

OldGuy@AA There needs to be a balance of power and they need to work together to come to agreements that are somewhere in the middle of what they both want. Like it or not, the majority of the American people voted against the GOP and they do not want their Teaparty agenda. The Teaparty is trying to force their agenda on us anyway.
The Teaparty is trying to force an agenda. That is laughable. You want to see a party trying to force an agenda go to Libtard California.

OldGuy@AA This is against our constitution and our whole way of life.
Which part of the commie left do you think is so pro constitution? The part where they want to force people to purchase insurance or the part where they want to disarm the citizens? How about the part where they are pushing for noncitizens to vote in political elections?

OldGuy@AA If you were on the other side of the fence you would not like it. What if a few Hispanic congressman took over the house and threatened to hold up the government unless we all started speaking Spanish? Would you like that?
I am on the other side of the fence. I am being forced to pay for a bunch of people gaming the welfare and disability system because Democrats want votes. I had my UNION dues funneled to a bunch of liberals so they can fight for the rights of the illegals flooding this country. I am most definitely on the other side of the fence and your right, I don’t like it.

OldGuy@AA This is kind of what Cruz and Canter and the other Nazis are doing. Wrong is wrong. Now this back and forth on this subject is actually a good thing. We can post our differences and not be afraid of any kind of retribution by our government.
Unless your Joe the plumber getting slammed by the IRS.

OldGuy@AA But at the end of the day we are all Americans and we love our country. I respect your opinion and I understand how unhappy you are with our president. I am unhappy with him too. But I am also unhappy with our whole congress. They have chosen their parties over the wellbeing of the American people. Both parties need a complete purge.
I do love my country. That is why I hate seeing it torn down by “entitlements”. That is why I am upset that Obamacare was forced down the throat of the American citizens. That is why I am tired of seeing the Democratic Party disregard the constitution that our country was built on at their whim. I respect your opinion as well. Just don't try to pull me into the mindset that as a good UNION sheep I should vote for the Libtard Democrats.

When the Democratic Party stops embracing liberalism I might look at them more favorably. Until then, I will steer clear of that cesspool.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Lala didn't you apply for one of those "entitlements" when you were laid off? Are you ready to give up your Social Security and medicare? How much money has AA received from Tulsa over the years as far as subsidies etc? Is that ok?

 

[iluvaa]

Tea party is the way to go

 

[Thomas Paine]

Lala, so sad to see that you still buy into the "trickle down theory" you say that by not taxing the rich it leaves more money for them to invest, well consumption drives the economy, there has never been a shortage of investment capital. Declines in demand cause recessions, layoffs, and all the other maladies of a poor economy and concentrating the wealth of the country in the hands of the few is bad for the country. let me ask you this, what else are the rich going to do with the excess wealth they have after they buy their Mansions, Yachts and excess lifestyles? Even if the tax rate on investments was 90% thats better than sticking it under the mattress and earning 0%. The fact is you have bought into a racist based lie (because everyone knows that when you speak of women having 6 babies on welfare in your mind the woman is black, even though most on welfare are white) . In the meantime when you were employed by AA they were the recipients of the greatest amounts of entitlements in your area, in exchange you and your peers did your part in lowering wages across the country.