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I'd take that deal too, because your buddies will make sure to move the age back so far that I probably won't live long enough to collect it. I never had the luxury of opting out either. You get yours at 65 and I get mine at 67 until they raise mine to 70 so they can keep paying you. But that's fair isn't it? As long as you are getting yours you don't care about anyone else. Like I said hypocrite.
Just for the record OldGuy, I'm older than you, and------ I didn't start collecting SS until I retired at 68, with 40 years, even though I could have at 65. So,suck it up, and stop crying about it, and put in your time, pay your dues, just like I did!
 
When you say liberalism do you mean social security, Medicare part D, no child left behind, corporate welfare, bank handouts (TARP), spreading freedom throughout the Middle East, hand outs to Africa to fight AIDS. UNIONS. Patriot act. The GOP was for infrastructure spending until Obama was for it. Think the interstate system, made up by IKE in the 50s what a liberal.
Wow your dumb. That is not what I am talking about at all.

I would also like to point out UNIONS should not even be in your post. The fact you would even mention UNIONS shows just how much TWU propaganda has warped your mind. Why don't you think for yourself you sheep. A UNIONS job is to negotiate fair market pay, benefits, and safe working conditions for YOU the membership. A UNIONS job is NOT to use your UNION dues to fund political parties.

Your sentences are so incoherent I do not even know what point your trying to make. I do not understand the IKE reference at all.
 
You mean, the program that was started under Reagan, and expanded to include cell phones under Bush? The one that Obama has nothing to do with?

When Bush was in office I saw not one place handing out cell phones. I never even heard of people getting free cell phones. Now I can not drive in town without at least seeing 3 booths handing them out.

I do not know who STARTED handing them out. I only know that from my perspective it is a recent phenomenon that is way way out of control.
 
I get that part. Dwight D. Eisenhower was a Republican. I am trying to figure out why you even brought him up.
 
When Bush was in office I saw not one place handing out cell phones. I never even heard of people getting free cell phones. Now I can not drive in town without at least seeing 3 booths handing them out.

I do not know who STARTED handing them out. I only know that from my perspective it is a recent phenomenon that is way way out of control.

Maybe you should research it, to find out what it actually is. Just because you've never noticed it until now, doesn't mean it wasn't happening. Landline was started under Reagan and expanded to include cellphones under Bush.
 
Just for the record OldGuy, I'm older than you, and------ I didn't start collecting SS until I retired at 68, with 40 years, even though I could have at 65. So,suck it up, and stop crying about it, and put in your time, pay your dues, just like I did!
You could have collected at 65 but you waited. I will never have that option. Neither will anyone younger than 55 right now. So you are sucking it up. In your warped view of things the rest of us having to wait until we are in our 70s for less money than you are getting today is fair. Typical Teabagger.
 
When Bush was in office I saw not one place handing out cell phones. I never even heard of people getting free cell phones. Now I can not drive in town without at least seeing 3 booths handing them out.

I do not know who STARTED handing them out. I only know that from my perspective it is a recent phenomenon that is way way out of control.

Because you did not see it it cannot be true. You admit not knowing who started the program and did not even try to find out. You admit that your post is based solely on your perspective irrespective of the truth.

Holy crap, no wonder the GOP is in trouble.

Try researching 1996 Telecommunications Act and go from there.
 
Just to bring you up to speed on current events, Boner is what's referred to as a RINO - a Republican in Name Only. His "party" affiliation is much closer to the demoncRATS as one can infer by his actions. I want to see everyone get the benefits they've paid for - even if it means raiding the foreign bank accounts of the DC infestation in Congress and the "Spite House" - hardly a "hypoctical" position on my part.

So-called "Savings" accounts, such as Social Security and Medicare, are not entitlements. The funds witheld for years have been raided by politicians and replaced with IOUs.

Welfare payments, SNAP, the free Obamaphones, and similar crap ARE entitlements - which should be done away with. The recipients CAN do something useful with themselves to earn their keep. Section 8 (in Okiehomie) housing is the scourge of the city - that's another entitlement.

Entitlements are things paid for through taxes by those who are working or outright theft from same - a wealth transfer, if you will.

You, me, MCI, and everyone else who draws a paycheck has paid, over the years, for the Social Security FDR set up and Medicare and Welfare, that LBJ set up in hopes of furthering the goals of the demoncRATic plantation - the sorry bastard is on record saying exactly that while at the same time entangling the USA deeper into Vietnam (raising the price of Lady Bird's Bell Helicopter stock).

From what I can see, there are plenty of the "gimmee" types not willing to stray very far from that demoncRAT plantation.

The enemy is not foreign this time, rather, it is domestic.
First off you better wake up. All Republicans in Washington consider Social Security and Medicare entitlements. They not only want to cut these programs, they want to destroy them. Remember Dubya wanted to privatize Social Security? Right before his policies caused the stock market to crash? Let me clue you in. The GOP does not care about you. They represent the wealthy and give your tax money to them only they have admitted that it is not a transfer of wealth because the middle class is not wealthy. I'm not making this up either. The Democrats are not much better but you won't see them giving the Bushes and Cheney's a tax cut while raising your taxes. The GOP handed your money to the savings and loan industry and banks and then criticized the Dems for LENDING money to the car manufacturers. Why? Because middle class people who are in unions work for them. I am a moderate but there is no moderate choice anymore. The teabaggers run the show in the GOP and the liberals run the Dems. Just look at every state that is controlled by the GOP. They are the worst in the country at things like average income, teen pregnancy, infant mortality, high school dropout rate. That should tell you something. But you have the right to believe what you want even thought the evidence is overwhelming against what you claim. Rush and company will always tell you the "Real" story. I am tired of arguing. So go ahead and keep on telling us how much the GOP has done for this country. They have brought us the Great Depression, the Great Recession, The Trickle Down Theory, Iran Contra, Irag, Afghanistan, The Patriot Act, And the worst president in American History. They do this and now they hold the entire country hostage because they want to kill a law that was passed fair and square. There are lots of things I don't like. It doesn't give me the right to put the whole country and it's economy in danger. And yes the Speaker of the House is refusing to allow any vote and he is a Republican so it is their fault. But don't let little things like facts get in your way. But that's all I'm going to say. You can post all you want about how great things would be if it weren't for the Dems. I dare you to contact your Republican Senator or Congressman and ask them if Social Security is an entitlement. I have no doubt they will tell you it is.
 
You could have collected at 65 but you waited. I will never have that option. Neither will anyone younger than 55 right now. So you are sucking it up. In your warped view of things the rest of us having to wait until we are in our 70s for less money than you are getting today is fair. Typical Teabagger.
Oh man! You still crying over something that may, or may not, happen!------- Where's my crying towel? Poor baby! Who said life was fair? Deal with it!
 
First off you better wake up. All Republicans in Washington consider Social Security and Medicare entitlements. They not only want to cut these programs, they want to destroy them. Remember Dubya wanted to privatize Social Security? Right before his policies caused the stock market to crash? Let me clue you in. The GOP does not care about you. They represent the wealthy and give your tax money to them only they have admitted that it is not a transfer of wealth because the middle class is not wealthy. I'm not making this up either. The Democrats are not much better but you won't see them giving the Bushes and Cheney's a tax cut while raising your taxes. The GOP handed your money to the savings and loan industry and banks and then criticized the Dems for LENDING money to the car manufacturers. Why? Because middle class people who are in unions work for them. I am a moderate but there is no moderate choice anymore. The teabaggers run the show in the GOP and the liberals run the Dems. Just look at every state that is controlled by the GOP. They are the worst in the country at things like average income, teen pregnancy, infant mortality, high school dropout rate. That should tell you something. But you have the right to believe what you want even thought the evidence is overwhelming against what you claim. Rush and company will always tell you the "Real" story. I am tired of arguing. So go ahead and keep on telling us how much the GOP has done for this country. They have brought us the Great Depression, the Great Recession, The Trickle Down Theory, Iran Contra, Irag, Afghanistan, The Patriot Act, And the worst president in American History. They do this and now they hold the entire country hostage because they want to kill a law that was passed fair and square. There are lots of things I don't like. It doesn't give me the right to put the whole country and it's economy in danger. And yes the Speaker of the House is refusing to allow any vote and he is a Republican so it is their fault. But don't let little things like facts get in your way. But that's all I'm going to say. You can post all you want about how great things would be if it weren't for the Dems. I dare you to contact your Republican Senator or Congressman and ask them if Social Security is an entitlement. I have no doubt they will tell you it is.
Oldguy, there is one thing we agree on, and that is this country is in one hell of a mess! And it's not all Republican states either! ------ California in particular comes to mind! And Illinois, has it's share of ex Democratic Governors, in jail! Chicago, Obama's home town, even though it has some of the toughest hand gun laws in the country, has one of the highest records of gun violence in the country also! Chicago currently run by one of Obama's right hand men! ------- Hey Oldguy? Exactly what States are you talking about? ------ Texas?
 
I get that part. Dwight D. Eisenhower was a Republican. I am trying to figure out why you even brought him up.

Ike was a republican who invested in America and didn't think that an investment in infrastructure was a secret socialist plan, unlike today's republicans.
 
Because you did not see it it cannot be true. You admit not knowing who started the program and did not even try to find out. You admit that your post is based solely on your perspective irrespective of the truth.

Holy crap, no wonder the GOP is in trouble.

Try researching 1996 Telecommunications Act and go from there.

Maybe if Rush mentions it on his radio program Le lo Lu will be informed. It's obvious that he bases his whole opinion because some guy told him. There will be a revolution in the GOP, the Cruz/Palin section and the Chris Christy section, good vs stupid. The true American and the one interviewing for the next fauxnews commentator.
 
Oh man! You still crying over something that may, or may not, happen!------- Where's my crying towel? Poor baby! Who said life was fair? Deal with it!

You are truly misinformed, the next generation will NOT be able to collect SS until we are 67, you had the option of collecting at 65. The GOP has shutdown gov to address entitlements and the budget according to their latest talking point. Turnoff conservative radio and read a paper.
 
I will most definitely vote for Cruz. The problem with Democrats today is they are ate up with liberalism. I do not support liberalism in any way.

The Democrats made it an easy choice for me when they started embracing liberalism. I will no longer support their party.
So you support the American version of the Taliban? I am at a loss to figure out why the word liberal is so bad. Some good stuff like social security and medicare came from liberals. Also things like the 40 hour work week, pensions (That Republicans are cutting) and child labor laws. Sure. They have some real losers like Nancy Pelosi in their ranks and brought us things like affirmative action, but there are more moderates now than ever in the Democratic party. The GOP has brought things like right to work, tax cuts for the rich, subsidies for Exxon Mobile, the right for PACs to throw millions at candidates, "Person" status for corporations and the leveraged buyout. Right now I can't think of a good thing to come from the Republican side of the aisle or I would list that too. They also have done a great job over the years of union busting and the last time I checked we were still members of a union. It is a sad union, but a union none the less. So you want to vote for a warped minded Texan that would love to destroy your way of life? Didn't you have enough of that with Dubya? Lucky for us all that more people despise the teaparty than like them. Unless the GOP dumps morons like Cruz they will not win the next election. They need to find a McCain without the idiot running mate.
 

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