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The same government that was looking out for Americans in Benghazi wants to take over your healthcare and look out for you?
 
usa1 said:
The same government that was looking out for Americans in Benghazi wants to take over your healthcare and look out for you?
They are all crooked and ain't none of them looking out for you...PERIOD!!
 
Perhaps it is time for this thread to be moved to the Water Cooler?....
 
Bob Owens said:
Protect Americans from whom? Doesn't Germany have their own Police to protect people? Are American more at risk in Germany than they are in Ireland? If not then why not have troops in Ireland too? We have Embassy's in both, isn't that enough? The fact is that the people who send our troops all over the world admit that they aren't there to protect American citizens, they are there to protect "American Interests". Can you define what "American Interests" are?
You forgot about Benghazi.

Ahhhh MCI transplant beat me to it.
 
I don't believe there is much else that can be said about it. It's still a train wreck in progress! ---- Mr. moderator, let's take E's suggestion, and move it!
 
Bob Owens said:
Its so sad to watch someone who has been screwed over by Corporate America lash out at Illegal immigrants who are even more exploited than him. He blames the liberals for Illegal aliens when its the Conservatives who keep them illegal, thus easier to exploit. Its the Conservatives who actively encourage and support a Foreign policy where we create and foster miserable conditions in these peoples homelands that drive them to our country. We suppress land and other reforms in those countries and keep criminals in power who allow American Interests (corporations) to steal their resources, our Banks impose loan shark like interest rates that keep them in perpetual debt and prevent them from providing even basic societal services. But blaming the rich and powerful may have consequences and its so much easier to blames the ills of society on those who cant fight back.
As a side not if you want to talk about someone creating and fostering miserable conditions don't forget to mention that political funding machine the TWU and all those libtard agendas they support with UNION dues. 
 
Bob Owens said:
Never said it wasn't, you are the one making this a party issue.
 
Bob Owens said:
 I said that our government suppresses reforms in other countries (I am pretty sure you said “Its the Conservatives who actively encourage and support a Foreign policy where we create and foster miserable conditions in these peoples homelands that drive them to our country”)which is what drives them across our Borders. Sure we accept a lot of immigrants (that's right more Legal immigrants that anybody else in the world), it helps them keep wages low. I say stop supporting corrupt foreign dictators and allow people in other countries to run their country without interference from us and maybe we would have so many immigrants.
 
I love how when you challenge a liberal they spout out incoherent nonsense. Throw the spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks right Bob?
I think you are trying to go after Ms Tree's crown.
 
Bob Owens said:
The Government mandates minimums. They can get more, but not just one week per year because the employer was able to buy off some Union officials who then lead their membership off a cliff. As far as the Holidays well that's you, and you obviously don't work under this deal if you think we have too many, only one Holiday-Christmas can be considered a Religious one although more celebrate the day than would claim they are Religious, the other days, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thankgiving and New years aren't tied to any particular Religion, neither are most of the Bank Holidays in Europe.
The point is that with the money they don't spend on the military their society supports a higher standard of living than ours, their system can provide them with Universal Healthcare as well.
 
Keep championing those liberal agendas Bob.
The government should mandate everything.
The “evil” military should be defunded. 
 
It is funny to watch a liberal push an agenda to defund the military and then, in the very next breath, say veterans and soldiers should be honored for their service.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
As a side not if you want to talk about someone creating and fostering miserable conditions don't forget to mention that political funding machine the TWU and all those libtard agendas they support with UNION dues. 
 
 
 
I love how when you challenge a liberal they spout out incoherent nonsense. Throw the spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks right Bob?
I think you are trying to go after Ms Tree's crown.
 
 
Keep championing those liberal agendas Bob.
The government should mandate everything.
The “evil” military should be defunded. 
 
It is funny to watch a liberal push an agenda to defund the military and then, in the very next breath, say veterans and soldiers should be honored for their service.
"veterans and soldiers should be honored for their service."----- That's not exactly how it played out when I returned to the States from a tour of duty off of Vet Nam!!! But like the man said, "What does that have to due with health care?
 
Our unions pushed for this train wreck .... sad but true. I'm sure the new Americian will be glad to dump us all into Obamacare soon enough.
 
"veterans and soldiers should be honored for their service."----- That's not exactly how it played out when I returned to the States from a tour of duty off of Vet Nam!!! But like the man said, "What does that have to due with health care?
Our whole country owes you so much. I would like to think that those that gave you and other returning G.I.s any guff regret their actions now. I was lucky enough to miss out on Vietnam and am thankful for that now.
 
The whole country owes me nothing. I volunteered, wasn't drafted, didn't burn my card, but only did what thousands of others also did. Shortly after I got out of the service my wife, and I, meet this older Canadian WWII vet. and his wife. Before the night was over, I ended up apologizing to him for having to put up with our trash crossing the boarder to avoid the draft! But the sad part of this whole story is that we haven't seemed to have learned anything for that war!!!
 
MCI transplant said:
"veterans and soldiers should be honored for their service."----- That's not exactly how it played out when I returned to the States from a tour of duty off of Vet Nam!!! But like the man said, "What does that have to due with health care?
Fair enough. 
 
MCI transplant said:
The whole country owes me nothing. I volunteered, wasn't drafted, didn't burn my card, but only did what thousands of others also did. Shortly after I got out of the service my wife, and I, meet this older Canadian WWII vet. and his wife. Before the night was over, I ended up apologizing to him for having to put up with our trash crossing the boarder to avoid the draft! But the sad part of this whole story is that we haven't seemed to have learned anything for that war!!!
What did you learn from it?
 
Thomas Paine said:
What did you learn from it?
I learned you should leave fighting wars to the Generals in the field, not the politicians in Washington! I learned if you decide to go to war, you pull out all the stops, and go in to win, or you don't go at all! ------- I know this is not the answer you wanted T.P., but as far as I'm concerned, in a war, there is no half way! And sadly, that's what's got us into trouble post Vet Nam!
 
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