Sthrnboy
Senior
This is an issue very close to my heart. I am a former flight attendant who helped get some of the reciprocal Jumpseat agreements that some of you are talking about.
I can tell you about Air Tran’s/Frontier/Jet Blue/and many other jumpseating policy. The POI of Air Tran will not allow flight attendants from other airlines to sit on the actual extra Jumpseat of Air Tran Airways Aircraft. Frontier Airlines, Spirit, and Allegiant allows every airline who has a reciprocal Jumpseat agreement to sit on there actual Jumpseat.
Many airlines allow some flight attendants to Jumpseat on or in a cabin seat for free. Some Poi’s of airlines don’t mind other airlines flight attendants sitting on there respective airline cabin Jumpseat if no cabin seat is not available.
I have contacted the FAA and so far I have not found any ruling that will not allow this to become a reality for all airlines. This is one of the many reasons that have been given to me.
Some airlines such as regional airlines say they are not allowed due to rules by the wholly owned principles. But if you look at American eagle, the pilots are allowed to Jumpseat in a cabin, or PSA or others. Yes, the Pilots are different but if ALPA can come together the IAM/AFA/and other flight attendant unions can do the same. AFA said its not a issue they are concerned with. If the members required AFA – per: Pat Friend to put it in future contracts it would be great. However, if all the commuters said this is a issue that they were concerned with. It could be changed if they stressed the importance of reciprocal jumpseating to there local LEC councils. If the LECâ€s put pressure by votes it could be changed.
Many airlines say regional airlines are not equipped with a extra cabin Jumpseat, however they allow pilots in the extra cabin seats.
Ok, I see so many wrong ideals about this reciprocal jumpseating issues. Many people are afraid for themselves. It something that I am tired of people asking for but it seems to fall on deaf ears of AFA.
Ok, If US Airways was to let other airlines Jumpseat in a cabin Jumpseat or on our actual extra Jumpseat they would go behind our US AIRWAYS FLIGHT ATTENDANTS EAST/WEST. They would be like any OAL airline cabin seat rider. They would be behind any flight attendant express (US AIRWAYS ex: PSA/Piedmont). They would only get the Jumpseat if no cabin seats were open. They would go behind every US Airways flight attendant. So our US Airways flight attendants that are worried about that need to find something else to chew own.
I know US Airways East flight attendants can pull each other off until the last 10 minutes. On US Airways West we go by seniority up to the hour of departure, then first come, first serve. That would remain the same until a combined Jumpseat agreement – per combined contract.
My issue is if the US Airways aircraft jumpseat is empty it would be a world of difference if that flight attendant no matter what airline was able to commute/or fly non rev via jumpseating.
This is not a issue of giving up, its about giving. We need to give not to US Airways but its giving to our sister/brothers: PSA/Piedmont. I think it would help our status of a professional career such as our ALPA brothers and sisters. It would help all other flight attendants. It’s not about what we are getting but it’s a fear of faults expectation of giving something up.
Also on the west we let our pilots sit on our jumpseat if NO US Airways flight attendant is on the jumpseat at any time and even at the last minute a flight attendant can pull our pilots off the cabin jumpseat.
Ok, off my soap box.
-Sthrnboy
I can tell you about Air Tran’s/Frontier/Jet Blue/and many other jumpseating policy. The POI of Air Tran will not allow flight attendants from other airlines to sit on the actual extra Jumpseat of Air Tran Airways Aircraft. Frontier Airlines, Spirit, and Allegiant allows every airline who has a reciprocal Jumpseat agreement to sit on there actual Jumpseat.
Many airlines allow some flight attendants to Jumpseat on or in a cabin seat for free. Some Poi’s of airlines don’t mind other airlines flight attendants sitting on there respective airline cabin Jumpseat if no cabin seat is not available.
I have contacted the FAA and so far I have not found any ruling that will not allow this to become a reality for all airlines. This is one of the many reasons that have been given to me.
Some airlines such as regional airlines say they are not allowed due to rules by the wholly owned principles. But if you look at American eagle, the pilots are allowed to Jumpseat in a cabin, or PSA or others. Yes, the Pilots are different but if ALPA can come together the IAM/AFA/and other flight attendant unions can do the same. AFA said its not a issue they are concerned with. If the members required AFA – per: Pat Friend to put it in future contracts it would be great. However, if all the commuters said this is a issue that they were concerned with. It could be changed if they stressed the importance of reciprocal jumpseating to there local LEC councils. If the LECâ€s put pressure by votes it could be changed.
Many airlines say regional airlines are not equipped with a extra cabin Jumpseat, however they allow pilots in the extra cabin seats.
Ok, I see so many wrong ideals about this reciprocal jumpseating issues. Many people are afraid for themselves. It something that I am tired of people asking for but it seems to fall on deaf ears of AFA.
Ok, If US Airways was to let other airlines Jumpseat in a cabin Jumpseat or on our actual extra Jumpseat they would go behind our US AIRWAYS FLIGHT ATTENDANTS EAST/WEST. They would be like any OAL airline cabin seat rider. They would be behind any flight attendant express (US AIRWAYS ex: PSA/Piedmont). They would only get the Jumpseat if no cabin seats were open. They would go behind every US Airways flight attendant. So our US Airways flight attendants that are worried about that need to find something else to chew own.
I know US Airways East flight attendants can pull each other off until the last 10 minutes. On US Airways West we go by seniority up to the hour of departure, then first come, first serve. That would remain the same until a combined Jumpseat agreement – per combined contract.
My issue is if the US Airways aircraft jumpseat is empty it would be a world of difference if that flight attendant no matter what airline was able to commute/or fly non rev via jumpseating.
This is not a issue of giving up, its about giving. We need to give not to US Airways but its giving to our sister/brothers: PSA/Piedmont. I think it would help our status of a professional career such as our ALPA brothers and sisters. It would help all other flight attendants. It’s not about what we are getting but it’s a fear of faults expectation of giving something up.
Also on the west we let our pilots sit on our jumpseat if NO US Airways flight attendant is on the jumpseat at any time and even at the last minute a flight attendant can pull our pilots off the cabin jumpseat.
Ok, off my soap box.
-Sthrnboy
