JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Worldport]

Worldport you just had P. Rez on here. Why didn't you ask him this question?

It's not a question it's a statement and but I guess I could rephrase it. Do you think he could answer it they obviously did'nt get to those articles yet. I'll ask you a question don't you think I might be in the right ballpark

 

[WeAAsles]

WeAA  I do lurk on here often  esp now that I'm still out on medical leave   But with whats going on here  its not worth getting into a p!$$!ng match with peeps on here  I don't have time for that   I primarily come here looking for updates and ask questions etc

I understand how you feel trust me. But when guys like you don't step up the company believes guys like you just don't exist. That's probably the thing that bothers me the most and why I get into these p!$$!ing matches.

I'm sure if I stopped they would just bark back and forth to each other all day.

 

[WeAAsles]

It's not a question it's a statement and but I guess I could rephrase it. Do you think he could answer it they obviously did'nt get to those articles yet. I'll ask you a question don't you think I might be in the right ballpark

I'm sure he couldn't/wouldn't be specific but I would think he could give at least enough clarity to what I think. And what I think is these guys want better than those other groups you mentioned?

And why maybe it might take a little longer too?

 

[AANOTOK]

UPDATE...............I guess
 
http://www.twulocal513.org/docs/Association%20Fleet%20Update%206%2D17.pdf

 

[Worldport]

I'm sure he couldn't/wouldn't be specific but I would think he could give at least enough clarity to what I think. And what I think is these guys want better than those other groups you mentioned?

And why maybe it might take a little longer too?

I don't know how AA did things but I truly truly believe with the exception of pay (because UA) ther is NO way the company gives us better than passenger service medical, vacation anything and I don't want to wait months for them to try As I said look at UAL and DAL

 

[AANOTOK]

Prez, you must be right. Giving the Association and company the benefit of doubt that they negotiated for 40 hours, and the best the Association update could come up with was eight lines to give to it's members, things must be really difficult.
I can only assume that the company is playing extreme hardball.

 

[P. REZ]

It's not a question it's a statement and but I guess I could rephrase it. Do you think he could answer it they obviously did'nt get to those articles yet. I'll ask you a question don't you think I might be in the right ballpark

Worldport,

We have not discussed everything, so no I couldn't answer everything you would want to know. What I can say is that PAX service took some hits on some outsourcing, more part time, Cars positions, etc. They were combining with AA who was non Union and I'm sure that made some things tougher for them. We are combining 2 contracts and that adds to the process.

We are taking steps forward and the Company is wanting to go backwards. I can't stress anymore how important it is for all of us to be unified in our message to the Company, move forward!!!

P. Rez

 

[Worldport]

UPDATE...............I guess
 
http://www.twulocal513.org/docs/Association%20Fleet%20Update%206%2D17.pdf

This isn't much, Tim is charging his cameras batteries as we speak. Weaasles will be outed this week

 

[Worldport]

Worldport,

We have not discussed everything, so no I couldn't answer everything you would want to know. What I can say is that PAX service took some hits on some outsourcing, more part time, Cars positions, etc. They were combining with AA who was non Union and I'm sure that made some things tougher for them. We are combining 2 contracts and that adds to the process.

We are taking steps forward and the Company is wanting to go backwards. I can't stress anymore how important it is for all of us to be unified in our message to the Company, move forward!!!

P. Rez

Thank you for taking the time . You are aware that the majority are quite antsy for this new contract. You know a kid on Xmas morning

 

[robbedagain]

no give backs  period   billions in profits   equals no give backs     WeAA  i did ask Tim a question but im still awaiting an answer on it

 

[AANOTOK]

Worldport,

We have not discussed everything, so no I couldn't answer everything you would want to know. What I can say is that PAX service took some hits on some outsourcing, more part time, Cars positions, etc. They were combining with AA who was non Union and I'm sure that made some things tougher for them. We are combining 2 contracts and that adds to the process.

We are taking steps forward and the Company is wanting to go backwards. I can't stress anymore how important it is for all of us to be unified in our message to the Company, move forward!!!

P. Rez

The only way to get more members aboard is to be more specific and stop with the teasers. If the company is wanting to go backwards, lay it out there, let AA answer those criticisms. Until you open the book and show the members, you are fighting a losing battle. You have two unions who have members that are having a difficult time trusting everything about the other. You have got to do something original, something unique to show the company is the problem and not the non voted on Association. These are NOT normal times!

 

[Worldport]

no give backs  period   billions in profits   equals no give backs     WeAA  i did ask Tim a question but im still awaiting an answer on it

You might be the exception but the longer it takes I think the less resolve there will be. 

 

[P. REZ]

Prez, you must be right. Giving the Association and company the benefit of doubt that they negotiated for 40 hours, and the best the Association update could come up with was eight lines to give to it's members, things must be really difficult.
I can only assume that the company is playing extreme hardball.

Correct, difficult, but we remain solid.

 

[WeAAsles]

no give backs  period   billions in profits   equals no give backs     WeAA  i did ask Tim a question but im still awaiting an answer on it

Good luck on that one.

 

[700UW]

Thank you for taking the time . You are aware that the majority are quite antsy for this new contract. You know a kid on Xmas morning

Translation "I'm greedy, gimme my money!"