JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[ograc]

Weez agreed, I do recognize the importance of having a good source to draw from, but CB did the company publish a formula for the profit sharing, and yes it may be too early to ask at this time.

 

The money grab bait continues to be taken. The company is working on both, the profit sharing formula and the packets needed with job elimination if they can obtain it in negotiations. Many, including yourself, may get both in the near future with this type of selfish, short sighted thinking. That profit share check will have to last awhile when your job is outsourced.

 

[bob@las-AA]

The money grab bait continues to be taken. The company is working on both, the profit sharing formula and the packets needed with job elimination if they can obtain it in negotiations. Many, including yourself, may get both in the near future with this type of selfish, short sighted thinking. That profit share check will have to last awhile when your job is outsourced.

You can pontificate till your blue in the face, I'll take my chances with the money!

 

[robbedagain]

CB  dont know if you may remember the 99 agreement but it was our first one  and to most of the folks in my station who were there at that time they always thought it was a great contract and one to use as a starting point for the JCBA  
 
Now with the PS  didnt DP say it was from the bottom of their hearts for all employees to receive the checks beginning next yr    Somehow  someway I feel he is going to  if he has not already begun  to use it against the JCBA talks   
 
Personally  I would love to see the scope LUS has be carried over to AA and enchance it even more.   Scope should be absoultely the number one priority  followed by wages  and everything else   Certainly sick needs to be paid in full first day   no other carrier with unions has this policy that I am aware of.    If they dont want to do a 401K with match certainly itd be cool to see more money added to the pension then   

 

[700UW]

You can pontificate till your blue in the face, I'll take my chances with the money!

Go ask you the UA guys how that worked out for them

You will one of the first out the door.

 

[ograc]

You can pontificate till your blue in the face, I'll take my chances with the money!

 
Already saw that in you. Your position and mindset should be duly noted by all. $$$$ first. Me first. You have shown your true colors. A spokesperson for the self centered in our ranks. Every group has those with your mentality. Proud that I am not of that mindset. 
 

 

[WeAAsles]

Already saw that in you. Your position and mindset should be duly noted by all. $$$$ first. Me first. You have shown your true colors. A spokesperson for the self centered in our ranks. Every group has those with your mentality. Proud that I am not of that mindset.

Bob from his picture is an older individual and I believe hired on 8 years ago so he doesn't top out till next year?

He may be concerned about money because he didn't provide for the future when he wants to retire? He didn't have enough time at AA to vest for a Pension. So it could be a case of financial panic for his future?

It's how he delivers his message through that could use a lot of improvement.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Already saw that in you. Your position and mindset should be duly noted by all. $$$$ first. Me first. You have shown your true colors. A spokesperson for the self centered in our ranks. Every group has those with your mentality. Proud that I am not of that mindset.

Yes
Yes
And yes

 

[Worldport]

OK smarty pants, on a three phase 480 volt main service enterance with a 400 amp braker, how many times can the ground be down sized connecting to the main bonding jumper? And what size is required for the feeders?

I feel like a little trivia today.

How the heck am I supposed to know I'm a baggage handler and not a very good one at that. I'm sure it the same question the Fire Marshal asked you after one of your disasters Oh and I thought they were called circuit BREAKERS

 

[Worldport]

You get em Bob. About time. Make sure it's nothing he can Google.

Hope he's a better electrician then you were a candidate  ha ha Weez I need to get paid

 

[Worldport]

That's a good point that they don't really understand how negotiations work. Maybe if you have a wee bit of time you could explain it here a little more in depth?

I've just had a two day barnstorm with some of the posters on here who think that we should have professional negotiators interact directly with the company instead of you guys. I've tried to explain why I believe it's not a very wise idea but I've met a fair amount of resistance.

Wanna take a crack at it?

Weez I don't want to start it over,  but I never said instead of...

 

[Worldport]

The 30 year guy knowing what his group wants and knowing how best to get it are two different things...

Exactamundo!

 

[WeAAsles]

They definitely know about the UA agreement. However your issues that you ask about haven't came up yet. And the LUS side currently has a access only plan. Granted it needs to be better than what it currently is which is up to 33 hours of sick time a month at 11.26 per hour to go toward medical. So I'm sure this is going to be discussed.

The problem with not having some type of retiree medical bridge is that when you retire you may have to draw out of any accounts less money then you'd prefer or else you won't qualify for subsidies under the ACA.

It's kind of a catch 22. If you draw out less then your medical insurance costs less. If you draw out more then you pay more for insurance.

I'm going to have to hope that Parker and co don't want to get stuck with a bunch of us older less productive geezers that have to linger around till 65 because they need to stay on AA's insurance plan. I've already heard people saying that since we lost the retiree medical option post BK.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

 

[Worldport]

The problem with not having some type of retiree medical bridge is that when you retire you may have to draw out of any accounts less money then you'd prefer or else you won't qualify for subsidies under the ACA.

It's kind of a catch 22. If you draw out less then your medical insurance costs less. If you draw out more then you pay more for insurance.

I'm going to have to hope that Parker and co don't want to get stuck with a bunch of us older less productive geezers that have to linger around till 65 because they need to stay on AA's insurance plan. I've already heard people saying that since we lost the retiree medical option post BK.

Weez we have a couple in their seventies, price you pay for having a young wife

 

[bob@las-AA]

How the heck am I supposed to know I'm a baggage handler and not a very good one at that. I'm sure it the same question the Fire Marshal asked you after one of your disasters Oh and I thought they were called circuit BREAKERS

Oops you caught a typo.

 

[NYer]

Don't believe there is a formula other than the 5% divided up to the employees. To be honest, I haven't spent much time dwelling on a 5% And I'm sure profit sharing will be discussed. But that's all I can say at this time on that.

The formula is based, in part, by individual earnings. The more you earn, the higher your payout.