JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Worldport]

you alone dont have the market of making things up on here.

Tim next video can you please have a halo around your head and you can put horns on the Weez. He's right Weez I think we will be getting the inferior LAA insurance.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim next video can you please have a halo around your head and you can put horns on the Weez. He's right Weez I think we will be getting the inferior LAA insurance.

Ill interview WeAAsles in a video. It may be a doll of some sort that resembles WeAAsles. Ill make sure ill put a "Contract now" button on him. I hope it isnt true how weaasles doesnt wear underwear and hangs out in baggage carts when he post on here?

 

[cltrat]

the LUS getting jabbed on insurance weather true or not is a very popular thought line on the LUS side

 

[AANOTOK]

the LUS getting jabbed on insurance weather true or not is a very popular thought line on the LUS side

So it begs the question. The NC in their updates claim 18 of the 20 T/A's are improvements.
Is that for the AA side, the US side, or both. Obviously if the insurance rumor is true and US is taking
it in the butt, will the NC state they have another improved T/A but fail to leave out "for the AA side".
Again, my worry with the Association is when you make someone happy, you could very well be angering
the others. I hope they are reaching T/A's that everyone is happy about or can live with as opposed to
everyone being more upset at what they lost instead of what they gained.
 
A perfect example would be if AA lost Cargo, but US kept Catering and actually gained a few stations
I can see where the AA side would be upset and the US side would be ecstatic. Or vice versa.

 

[Worldport]

So it begs the question. The NC in their updates claim 18 of the 20 T/A's are improvements.
Is that for the AA side, the US side, or both. Obviously if the insurance rumor is true and US is taking
it in the butt, will the NC state they have another improved T/A but fail to leave out "for the AA side".
Again, my worry with the Association is when you make someone happy, you could very well be angering
the others. I hope they are reaching T/A's that everyone is happy about or can live with as opposed to
everyone being more upset at what they lost instead of what they gained.
 
A perfect example would be if AA lost Cargo, but US kept Catering and actually gained a few stations
I can see where the AA side would be upset and the US side would be ecstatic. Or vice versa.

If true I will lose my insurance, lose my well deserved days off due to rotating and according to Tim my seniority I was hired in March of 78 but my seniority date is late April 78 Weaasles says it doesn't matter but here at LGA people were hired in clusters so actually one day of seniority makes a difference

 

[cltrat]

AANOTOK, personally I think it is nothing more than rumor at this point. Perhaps saying many people are speculating that is what will happen.

We are greedy here we want the cargo and the catering maybe a pipe dream but why not? I believe the LUS side already has more stations than the LAA side does hopfully we can keep ours and the LAA side adds some

 

[cltrat]

rotating shifts which I don't believe will happen would cause a riot in CLT

 

[AANOTOK]

I agree rat, just throwing that out there as a scenario.
 
WP, likewise, here in Dallas we were hired in clusters so it makes a huge difference as well.
Also in Dallas, we do not have rotating shifts. We bid hours (shift) and days off based on "occupational" seniority
and hold them as long as your seniority will allow. I personally don't see that changing nor do I see anything changing
in the way seniority is set up now. Just my opinion.
 
Vacation is bid by company DOH and you bid it all at once. So, I have folks bidding vacation before me, but I have shifts and days off much better than they.

 

[WeAAsles]

Tim next video can you please have a halo around your head and you can put horns on the Weez. He's right Weez I think we will be getting the inferior LAA insurance.

Maybe? But if you do it's only an increase of about $40.00 per month for a single. I think with around a $1000.00 per month raise you'll be able to handle it.

 

[WeAAsles]

So it begs the question. The NC in their updates claim 18 of the 20 T/A's are improvements.
Is that for the AA side, the US side, or both. Obviously if the insurance rumor is true and US is taking
it in the butt, will the NC state they have another improved T/A but fail to leave out "for the AA side".
Again, my worry with the Association is when you make someone happy, you could very well be angering
the others. I hope they are reaching T/A's that everyone is happy about or can live with as opposed to
everyone being more upset at what they lost instead of what they gained.
 
A perfect example would be if AA lost Cargo, but US kept Catering and actually gained a few stations
I can see where the AA side would be upset and the US side would be ecstatic. Or vice versa.

The improvements are over the language in both agreements as the updates have stated. And again as far as the company continuing to want any specific jobs from us to be contracted out, they haven't gotten to that point of the conversation yet. Again looking at what they've worked on so far by the updates.

Or insurance items either for that matter.

 

[WeAAsles]

If true I will lose my insurance, lose my well deserved days off due to rotating and according to Tim my seniority I was hired in March of 78 but my seniority date is late April 78 Weaasles says it doesn't matter but here at LGA people were hired in clusters so actually one day of seniority makes a difference

That seniority "rumor" is only something being drummed up in the mind of Nelson to get you all flustered and nervous. It's really all on you if you want to let him manipulate you that way?

The rotating shifts (specific only to TWU JFK and LGA) I'm sure they'll fight tooth and nail to keep going. But you also know there are jobs you can bid that you won't have to do the rotation dance. I'm sure you've already thought about the job you're going to take when were merged.

 

[Worldport]

Maybe? But if you do it's only an increase of about $40.00 per month for a single. I think with around a $1000.00 per month raise you'll be able to handle it.

Weez I'm not thinking of myself I'm thinking about the thousands of other employees with families C'mon you know me  (AL)truistic

 

[WeAAsles]

I agree rat, just throwing that out there as a scenario.
 
WP, likewise, here in Dallas we were hired in clusters so it makes a huge difference as well.
Also in Dallas, we do not have rotating shifts. We bid hours (shift) and days off based on "occupational" seniority
and hold them as long as your seniority will allow. I personally don't see that changing nor do I see anything changing
in the way seniority is set up now. Just my opinion.
 
Vacation is bid by company DOH and you bid it all at once. So, I have folks bidding vacation before me, but I have shifts and days off much better than they.

"I personally don't see that changing nor do I see anything changing
in the way seniority is set up now. Just my opinion."

Good opinion. I agree 100%

 

[Worldport]

rotating shifts which I don't believe will happen would cause a riot in CLT

The rotating shifts are specific to JFK and LGA where seniority obviously means nothing. So I'll start off saying the TWU bites

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez I'm not thinking of myself I'm thinking about the thousands of other employees with families C'mon you know me  (AL)truistic

Again the only "real" reason you guys have such cheap medical is because your contract hose's the PT guys. If they were paying less right now I can guarantee you'd be paying more.

Thoughts? Are you guys ok with that continuing?