JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Tim Nelson]

BTW You sound like a victim too sometimes Tim.

we have all been victimized going thru bankruptcies with management, and i believe the collective bargaining agents have exploited us, but at the end of the day, none of us are legally entitled to anything other than pathetic representation. Im not saying our representation at lus has been pathetic but ive taken on the role over the years to make sure it isnt. Others have as well.

 

[WeAAsles]

we have all been victimized going thru bankruptcies with management, and i believe the collective bargaining agents have exploited us, but at the end of the day, none of us are legally entitled to anything other than pathetic representation. Im not saying our representation at lus has been pathetic but ive taken on the role over the years to make sure it isnt. Others have as well.

Well thank God the entire industry has Tim Nelson ORD Ramp Bagroom runner Agent keeping his eye out for all of us.

Where would we be without you?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Well thank God the entire industry has Tim Nelson ORD Ramp Bagroom runner Agent keeping his eye out for all of us.
Where would we be without you?

You would not be making $24 without me and others who are like me. Thats for sure. Nobody was building support against TA1 at united so i led a national blitz against it and we shut it down after i got the info out. Because of that, all of us enjoy another .75 an hour at american.
All of the usair agcs including CB and prez voted unanimous for that garbage and stood down. 700 said i should stay out of it due to me not being a united employee. Delaney felt me and used the official website to attack me. But yes, i am just a ramper and proud to be one.

 

[AANOTOK]

You would not be making $24 without me and others who are like me. Thats for sure. Nobody was building support against TA1 at united so i led a national blitz against it and we shut it down after i got the info out. Because of that, all of us enjoy another .75 an hour at american.
All of the usair agcs including CB and prez voted unanimous for that garbage and stood down.

I'm not sure how bad the TA1 was, but if it was total garbage and CB and prez did indeed vote for it, the is truly worrisome
knowing one if not both are negotiating for us.
Again, as a disclaimer, I don't know anything about it and I know there are two sides to every story, but if Tim proves to be factual and those two voted for proven garbage, I worry.

 

[WeAAsles]

You would not be making $24 without me and others who are like me. Thats for sure. Nobody was building support against TA1 at united so i led a national blitz against it and we shut it down after i got the info out. Because of that, all of us enjoy another .75 an hour at american.
All of the usair agcs including CB and prez voted unanimous for that garbage and stood down. 700 said i should stay out of it due to me not being a united employee. Delaney felt me and used the official website to attack me. But yes, i am just a ramper and proud to be one.

Tim I never knew that it was you who got me my pay? I always thought it was the airline that paid me? I mean I remember before direct deposit my checks said American Airlines on them.

And I always thought you were just some really anti Union guy trying to make up your own personal Union using a notorious Union busting Law Firm to help you get into a position for yourself so you could get paid Bucu Bucks and when you're invention destroyed whatever it might get to represent you could ride off into the sunset with all the money you were able to siphon out of it?

Oh how INCREDIBLY wrong and foolish I was. Thank you for my paycheck Sir.

Who's better than you?

 

[WeAAsles]

I'm not sure how bad the TA1 was, but if it was total garbage and CB and prez did indeed vote for it, the is truly worrisome
knowing one if not both are negotiating for us.
Again, as a disclaimer, I don't know anything about it and I know there are two sides to every story, but if Tim proves to be factual and those two voted for proven garbage, I worry.

I know that you're smarter than listening to Timmy right.

TA 1 had more jobs but less money.
TA 2 had more money but less jobs.

People just LLLLLLoooooovvvvvveeeee that $$MONEY$$

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim I never knew that it was you who got me my pay? I always thought it was the airline that paid me? I mean I remember before direct deposit my checks said American Airlines on them.

And I always thought you were just some really anti Union guy trying to make up your own personal Union using a notorious Union busting Law Firm to help you get into a position for yourself so you could get paid Bucu Bucks and when you're invention destroyed whatever it might get to represent you could ride off into the sunset with all the money you were able to siphon out of it?

Oh how INCREDIBLY wrong and foolish I was. Thank you for my paycheck Sir.

Who's better than you?

Well, I know you never said you were good at math but your TWU got you a true up and left it at that. You might not have been aware that it was based on United earnings as well. While you were supporting 700 and became his disciple and shill for the IAM since your own TWU Local rejected you, I was out advocating for workers and while you and others see me as anti union when I rise up against these Labor organizations who aren't worth squat, it wasn't that I was being anti union, but rather I was being pro worker. That said, I was very very successful in upping your pay another .75 along with all of my IAM brothers and sisters with the successful shut down of TA1 that the IAM blamed me for.

Of course, you are 'pro union' so you would never rise up against a union. I've never identified myself as anything other than being pro worker because the Labor organizations are a business and I'm going to attack any business or service that screws over members, when it does.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I know that you're smarter than listening to Timmy right.

TA 1 had more jobs but less money.
TA 2 had more money but less jobs.

People just LLLLLLoooooovvvvvveeeee that $$MONEY$$

Oh please stop your shilling for the IAM. You are wrong by both accounts. You can go back and read how I blamed our usair IAM eboard members for voting for TA1 and making it an unanimous eboard vote, and they commented about it on this forum as well. They did. That's a fact because they do what they are expected to do. They love the money too, not just you!

Secondly, your comment about TA1 and TA2 is just ignorant. TA2 had a greater money piece than TA1, even without half of their profit sharing, and also incorporated a better process of keeping stations. It still blowed bigtime but the process in TA2 was directly responsible for the continued existence of 15 stations. So it was both/and, not either/or. Stop lying WeAAsle. Cripes you picked up where 700 left off with. I guess you are the adopted IAM child now. I'm going to have to request NYer to get you out of TWU banishment or at least buy you a coffee so you spend less time on this forum.

lol

 

[Tim Nelson]

BTW, I heard usair members are going to take a big hit on insurance. Whatever happened to the promise to take the best of both? Why would we have to pay for our own raise? Why lose medical if it survived bankruptcy? Are we being used to subsidize the TWU members? I hope we don't lose IAM stations or catering as well. Why should we lose anything that survived 2 bankruptcies in the worst of times?

 

[WeAAsles]

Well, I know you never said you were good at math but your TWU got you a true up and left it at that. You might not have been aware that it was based on United earnings as well. While you were supporting 700 and became his disciple and shill for the IAM since your own TWU Local rejected you, I was out advocating for workers and while you and others see me as anti union when I rise up against these Labor organizations who aren't worth squat, it wasn't that I was being anti union, but rather I was being pro worker. That said, I was very very successful in upping your pay another .75 along with all of my IAM brothers and sisters with the successful shut down of TA1 that the IAM blamed me for.Of course, you are 'pro union' so you would never rise up against a union. I've never identified myself as anything other than being pro worker because the Labor organizations are a business and I'm going to attack any business or service that screws over members, when it does.

This is nothing but blather.

 

[WeAAsles]

Oh please stop your shilling for the IAM. You are wrong by both accounts. You can go back and read how I blamed our usair IAM eboard members for voting for TA1 and making it an unanimous eboard vote, and they commented about it on this forum as well. They did. That's a fact because they do what they are expected to do. They love the money too, not just you!Secondly, your comment about TA1 and TA2 is just ignorant. TA2 had a greater money piece than TA1, even without half of their profit sharing, and also incorporated a better process of keeping stations. It still blowed bigtime but the process in TA2 was directly responsible for the continued existence of 15 stations. So it was both/and, not either/or. Stop lying WeAAsle. Cripes you picked up where 700 left off with. I guess you are the adopted IAM child now. I'm going to have to request NYer to get you out of TWU banishment or at least buy you a coffee so you spend less time on this forum.lol

You again leave out the story of PMCO and what they didn't bring to the table to help in the negotiations. I'm not going to continue writing that story anymore. But I do truly believe you just don't have the ability to understand it anyway.

 

[WeAAsles]

BTW, I heard usair members are going to take a big hit on insurance. Whatever happened to the promise to take the best of both? Why would we have to pay for our own raise? Why lose medical if it survived bankruptcy? Are we being used to subsidize the TWU members? I hope we don't lose IAM stations or catering as well. Why should we lose anything that survived 2 bankruptcies in the worst of times?

So you're hearing about things they haven't even begun discussing with the company yet? And I thought that you were against the PT paying double the rate to subsidize your medical? I guess I was incorrect.

You're hearing rumors obviously and you're running with them or you're just making things up as you go along.

 

[Tim Nelson]

So you're hearing about things they haven't even begun discussing with the company yet? And I thought that you were against the PT paying double the rate to subsidize your medical? I guess I was incorrect.
You're hearing rumors obviously and you're running with them or you're just making things up as you go along.

you alone dont have the market of making things up on here.

 

[WeAAsles]

you alone dont have the market of making things up on here.

You're right. You already cornered that market and are a consummate expert in that area.

 

[Tim Nelson]

You're right. You already cornered that market and are a consummate expert in that area.

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