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Tim Nelson said:
they said they are asking for the best of both. The reason why we will get more is the same reason why delta got more. I know you like shilling for the iam cuz you arent prepared yet to embrace your elected Local leadership, but you and I both know that the union persons arent prepared to fight for anything, so might as well just sign it already. All the union persons do now is ask management.You think you got your crap contract because someone actually stood up? Go talk to Spirit.
http://youtu.be/9rKeqPEGMvM
 
Girly unions. Our 2 unions are a complete disaster. I knew we were sunk with the asshats set the bar low by saying "We will get the best of both". Well, folks, the best of both sucks balls because both of our contracts suck. Now, my union person told me that I need to prepare myself to get my health care whacked? What up with that? That doesn't even satisfy the "Best of Both". We will only get what Parker will give us and hopefully he gives us more than the "Best of Both" retarded position of our girly peeps. Sign the contract already and get out of the way so our union can vote and decide. This 2 union Labor organization thing has been a complete disaster, as expected by the union.
 
So, our medical survives 2 bankruptcies but the union persons are already telling us to prepare to lose it? What is that all about?
 
So, our medical survives 2 bankruptcies but the union persons are already telling us to prepare to lose it? What is that all about?
well you please wait until the tentative is settled? I'm with you on a lot of things and my hunch is that our negotiating team is as well but lay off of the IAM pension rhetoric as we need to build this plan. Just so you know, if just 10,000 TWU members join the IAM pension then all of the fears you have been talking about will be put on the shelf and the plan will stand on stronger ground. I agree with you that we shouldn't lose our strong medical but I doubt the company moves our TWU brothers and sisters over to our plan. So a concession somewhere in the middle is most likely what we will be getting.
 
He is being fed misinformation just like his contact on the 2014 PMUS CBA Wikileaks was feeding him.
 
Tim couldnt be more wrong if he tried.
 
Other People said:
well you please wait until the tentative is settled? I'm with you on a lot of things and my hunch is that our negotiating team is as well but lay off of the IAM pension rhetoric as we need to build this plan. Just so you know, if just 10,000 TWU members join the IAM pension then all of the fears you have been talking about will be put on the shelf and the plan will stand on stronger ground. I agree with you that we shouldn't lose our strong medical but I doubt the company moves our TWU brothers and sisters over to our plan. So a concession somewhere in the middle is most likely what we will be getting.
We will be getting what ever medical LAA has, a concession. Our scope language will go up from 1 flight another concession. I'm sure Tim can think of plenty more
 
700UW said:
He is being fed misinformation just like his contact on the 2014 PMUS CBA Wikileaks was feeding him.
 
Tim couldnt be more wrong if he tried.
Will Wikileaks be resurfacing for these current negotiations? We shall see
 
Worldport said:
We will be getting what ever medical LAA has, a concession. Our scope language will go up from 1 flight another concession. I'm sure Tim can think of plenty more
You dont know that, and as long as Tom Regan is there, I doubt that will happen.
 
In Chapter 11 part one the company wanted us all on the same plan the pilots had and all pay the same, Tom found a better and cheaper plan and convinced the company to go with it, it was a win win for both sides.
 
Look at how good the PMUS Heath Insurance is, you can thank Tom for that.

Tim is just trying to stir crap, dont believe him.
 
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well you please wait until the tentative is settled? I'm with you on a lot of things and my hunch is that our negotiating team is as well but lay off of the IAM pension rhetoric as we need to build this plan. Just so you know, if just 10,000 TWU members join the IAM pension then all of the fears you have been talking about will be put on the shelf and the plan will stand on stronger ground. I agree with you that we shouldn't lose our strong medical but I doubt the company moves our TWU brothers and sisters over to our plan. So a concession somewhere in the middle is most likely what we will be getting.
 
What do you mean "WE", you can keep your stinking plan, I not paying IAM dues to the tune of 80+ a month to get pennies at the end, furthermore the IAM 401 gives only a 3% match.
 
NO THANKS!
 
Tim Nelson said:
Girly unions. Our 2 unions are a complete disaster. I knew we were sunk with the asshats set the bar low by saying "We will get the best of both". Well, folks, the best of both sucks balls because both of our contracts suck. Now, my union person told me that I need to prepare myself to get my health care whacked? What up with that? That doesn't even satisfy the "Best of Both". We will only get what Parker will give us and hopefully he gives us more than the "Best of Both" retarded position of our girly peeps. Sign the contract already and get out of the way so our union can vote and decide. This 2 union Labor organization thing has been a complete disaster, as expected by the union.
Sign what contract? They still have to negotiate around 16 Articles. If you need $$MONEY$$ so bad go take a loan from the Credit Union already.

Jeez
 
Other People said:
well you please wait until the tentative is settled? I'm with you on a lot of things and my hunch is that our negotiating team is as well but lay off of the IAM pension rhetoric as we need to build this plan. Just so you know, if just 10,000 TWU members join the IAM pension then all of the fears you have been talking about will be put on the shelf and the plan will stand on stronger ground. I agree with you that we shouldn't lose our strong medical but I doubt the company moves our TWU brothers and sisters over to our plan. So a concession somewhere in the middle is most likely what we will be getting.
If our guys can get the company to agree to the UAL deal. IAMPF and 3% match, I'll gladly jump in and help prop the bugger up.

Mostly to help Tim get out the door now. I'm even thinking about a Go Fund me account to accomplish the task earlier? Or to pay for the psychological help he really needs to get.

Sybil.
 
bob@las-AA said:
What do you mean "WE", you can keep your stinking plan, I not paying IAM dues to the tune of 80+ a month to get pennies at the end, furthermore the IAM 401 gives only a 3% match.
 
NO THANKS!
You're not as good at math as you claim to be then.
 
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