JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Worldport]

Working right now but how much UAL makes

I got $29.88

 

[WeAAsles]

Working right now but how much UAL makes

They'll go to $29.87 on November 1.

 

[Worldport]

They'll go to $29.87 on November 1.

I'm expecting +3% and 55 differential. When do they start negotiations  again.? 

 

[Talos]

He let you know in no uncertain terms that it's not possible to keep jumping to be the industry leader. He also stated that it would be "inline", not +7 or even +3, that is no longer on the teleprompter. I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying that my confidence has taken a hit...My fear is a "+" will now be covered by a concession that wasn't previously part of the proposal or was on of the "set aside" items. The longer it goes was once something I felt benefited us, now I'm not so sure.

I know that the LUS guys told us this mgmt team takes a long time to do a deal, but this is really bad faith by mgmt IMO. The Association has not helped matters by failing to push a lot harder. Hopefully they have all the numbers they need to figure a total package that has no concessions. After hearing mgmts false remarks on those town halls about wanting to do a deal it's pathetic. The leadership of the unions has not done squat to help. The NC people can deal with the company but the union leadership has not helped them either. Dazed and confused is how they appear.

 

[Zom JFK]

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[Worldport]

I know that the LUS guys told us this mgmt team takes a long time to do a deal, but this is really bad faith by mgmt IMO. The Association has not helped matters by failing to push a lot harder. Hopefully they have all the numbers they need to figure a total package that has no concessions. After hearing mgmts false remarks on those town halls about wanting to do a deal it's pathetic. The leadership of the unions has not done squat to help. The NC people can deal with the company but the union leadership has not helped them either. Dazed and confused is how they appear.

Perhaps there is a smidgen of truth to Tim's negotiation claims. I hope he comes out with a "Negotiation video" I'll spring for the Captain Morgan. Funny how he went from a pisswater beer to top-shelf booz

 

[Tim Nelson]

Perhaps there is a smidgen of truth to Tim's negotiation claims. I hope he comes out with a "Negotiation video" I'll spring for the Captain Morgan. Funny how he went from a pisswater beer to top-shelf booz

Top shelf booz? I wish. The video's just include Jack & Honey. I cleaned up the laundry basket a bit and I'm not as grubby. Had to redo the one video because I watched it and the webcam caught me scratching my nuts. I gotta be more professional.

 

[Worldport]

Top shelf booz? I wish. The video's just include Jack & Honey. I cleaned up the laundry basket a bit and I'm not as grubby. Had to redo the one video because I watched it and the webcam caught me scratching my nuts. I gotta be more professional.

Don't bother we will be scratching our nads and our heads while we watch it and I'll  probably be picking my nose  and my butt But your negotiation theory may very well hold some merit Too bad about the laundry basket you were associated with it the same way Steven Tyler is associated with his bandanas

 

[Tim Nelson]

Don't bother we will be scratching our nads and our heads while we watch it and I'll  probably be picking my nose  and my butt But your negotiation theory may very well hold some merit Too bad about the laundry basket you were associated with it the same way Steven Tyler is associated with his bandanas

they better have things wrapped up no later than September or I'm going to open up a can of whoop arse on them and ear hole them. These guys don't know what they are doing and they don't care. They already blew it and now they are scrambling with mind boggling updates where they are misusing the word 'progress' like Vicinny [sp?] misused the word 'inconceivable'.

 

[AANOTOK]

they better have things wrapped up no later than September or I'm going to open up a can of whoop arse on them and ear hole them. These guys don't know what they are doing and they don't care. They already blew it and now they are scrambling with mind boggling updates where they are misusing the word 'progress' like Vicinny [sp?] misused the word 'inconceivable'.

If we were to start a new poll, I would have to say January before we are actually operating under one contract. I do believe the NC could throw anything out there at this point and it would be voted in. In my opinion, that's scary!

 

[robbedagain]

Tim  from what Prez and CB have posted on here  it sure seems theyre making pretty good progress   But you need to remember its teh combing of the TWU and IAM contracts into one binding agreement and getting the contract rules and other agreements in it along with getting mgmt to agree to terms that our nego team laid out    Youll recall that the first meeting (DFW??) the company, not the union was the one not prepared     Imagine that  the company not prepped    no shocker there    This mgmt team wants to get binding agreements for the purpose of satisfying those share holders   but its the  mgmt team that is doing the stalling    I do think  (my own opin) that we will have some sort of JCBA in Sept   may be voting on it October and taking affect thereafter     TWU and the IAM had different contract languages    Its not easy putting 2 different unions and contracts into one binding agreement    I think their doing much better than in past negos with this monkey arse mgmt team

 

[Tim Nelson]

I'm assuming they are meeting this week, does anyone know the schedule?

It doesnt matter if they are meeting or not. The update will use terms like progress but they already know what parker is giving us. I mean there is nothing our morons can do anyways, right?

 

[Traymark]

Tim  from what Prez and CB have posted on here  it sure seems theyre making pretty good progress   But you need to remember its teh combing of the TWU and IAM contracts into one binding agreement and getting the contract rules and other agreements in it along with getting mgmt to agree to terms that our nego team laid out    Youll recall that the first meeting (DFW??) the company, not the union was the one not prepared     Imagine that  the company not prepped    no shocker there    This mgmt team wants to get binding agreements for the purpose of satisfying those share holders   but its the  mgmt team that is doing the stalling    I do think  (my own opin) that we will have some sort of JCBA in Sept   may be voting on it October and taking affect thereafter     TWU and the IAM had different contract languages    Its not easy putting 2 different unions and contracts into one binding agreement    I think their doing much better than in past negos with this monkey arse mgmt team

 
 
 
Robbed, for the record, the Pilots were combining basically 3 different contracts and the FA's were combining 2 different contracts.
Both got done in 4 months time, at the same time too.
 
So what is so different about our 2 contracts?
 
The Association was certified in May of 2015.  We are now 14 months into the one big happy family deal of a union and we aren't even half way through the contract, and the money portion will be whatever the company says it will be, that part is basically done.
 
14 months and counting, negotiations will de shut down for the holidays, we wouldn't want to over tax our NC, so we will soon see negotiating dates for 2017.

 

[Tim Nelson]

As far as Fleet Service Clerks.....can we lose that Bull S title? How about we keep the LUS term, Fleet Service Agent? Clerks is a term that is a retarded term that makes it sound like we are handing something out. Enuf with the stupid terms, and let's lose the Clerk term. Call us anything but let's lose the stupid arse term, Clerk.

 

[WeAAsles]

The window of opportunity has closed. "The sky is falling, the sky is falling" So said Chicken Little.

BREXIT. We are all doomed.

LMAO.

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