June - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[BoeingBoy]

No reason for further adressing the issue of "Pure BS" for you, since that's been previously covered in depth.

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Points given per "...slip up and get a fact in once or twice..."
Posted 04 June 2012 - 02:55 PM BoeingBoy: "....The Nic award's status as final and binding remains in question."

Yes, your plentiful use of BS has been covered before - you've earned the title "Lying, scum sucking SOB" and are teaching your minions well.

The Nic? A court will most likely untimately decide how binding it is - another true statement from me. And really nothing new - just one those established facts that you keep missing....

Jim

 

[fodase]

You're delusional. USAPA will exist until single carrier status is in place. USAPA cannot be taken out of the picture before an integration method is agreed upon due to McCaskill-Bond.

Are those straws you are grasping at giving you any relief from those delusions?

Now see clown, the reason you eastholes keep getting smacked down is because you are right down ignorant of how things work. You should know 2 thinks that are the absolute truth.
1- There is no legal requirement for a transition agreement to be negotiated before we are a single carrier.

2- Usapa CAN be taken out before an integration method is agreed upon, read the law and educate your scab self for once.

 

[EastUS1]

... - you've earned the title "Lying,...

"Lying"? How, where, when, and pertaining to supposedly what?..... "Nice" try. I'll leave such behavior to truly well practiced experts. "Some" seem able to do so with the same facility others draw breath....Oh well.

"SOB"? Well....I can't argue with that at times.

No matter, as the amusing point, after all the years of incessant insults and smug "certainty" is the following: BoeingBoy: "....The Nic award's status as final and binding remains in question." This has been well known by apparently all but the most staunch nic supporters for a long time. It is indeed worth a chuckle to see an admission of that from among those ranks 😉

 

[jetjok1]

We feel sorry for you easties - your so pathetic. You all should be going after Cleary! He promised you so much and delivered nothing. Couldn't even win a RICO suit against a small group of pilots - even more pathetic.

All those wasted years on LOA 93 and now you've grown to accept your situation and even rationalize it. Stockholm syndrome at its finest.

At least most of you easties will be gone in a few years with little to nothing to show for your careers.



Really, you've seen my balance sheet all insightful one?

 

[Move2CLT]

Nice job with the quote tags boo.

And no need to see your balance sheet. Its no where near what it could have been.

 

[jetjok1]

Nice job with the quote tags boo.

And no need to see your balance sheet. Its no where near what it could have been.

Well, since you have no life and live on these boards, why don't you correct it.

It's big enough

 

[Move2CLT]

Well, since you have no life and live on these boards, why don't you correct it.

It's big enough

I'm sure it is. Its because of your successful second business that all you easties have, isn't it?

 

[Phoenix]

Well, since you have no life and live on these boards, why don't you correct it.

It's big enough

No matter how many times you (or anyonelse) open the blue water closet, it is still gonna have the same smell wafting out.

 

[jetjok1]

I'm sure it is. Its because of your successful second business that all you easties have, isn't it?

I'm not sure about other pilots, East or West, but yes....it is.......what bothers you about that?
A lot of pilots have second businesses. If you didn't spend so much time here, you could put your expertise to work elsewhere. Heaven knows you have the time
Funny thing is......my 20+years of non LOA 93 wages help finance it. Imagine that. Meanwhile, you're still playing catchup.

 

[Move2CLT]

I'm not sure about other pilots, East or West, but yes....it is.......what bothers you about that?
A lot of pilots have second businesses. If you didn't spend so much time here, you could put your expertise to work elsewhere. Heaven knows you have the time
Funny thing is......my 20+years of non LOA 93 wages help finance it. Imagine that. Meanwhile, you're still playing catchup.

Amazing how those second businesses are highly successful yet you fight for this job like your life depends on it.

Makes me wonder what you think "successful" means. Then again, you guys don't mind LOA93 either so that says alot.

 

[EastUS1]

Makes me wonder what you think "successful" means.

Indeed. An interesting little excerpt from a recent AOL update/fundraiser:

"Regardless of the outcome of the AMR deal, your contributions have insured that the Nicolau is just as alive today as it was over five years ago when it was first published"

Consider that for more than a moment....".... just as alive today as it was over five years ago....." Just how truly "alive" was it five years ago?...or now?

 

[Pi brat]

"Lying, scum sucking SOB" and are teaching your minions well.

Jim

I only tune in every once in a while and I wonder what I'm missing. That seems a little strong for you and since it is in quotes I'm wondering what it is.

 

[usabusdriver]

ahmm how's the bus work again? If your selected speed is less than indicated what thrust are the engines commanded to?

fodase,

The key to answer your question is in what MODE?

If you are implying that because indicated airspeed is greater than selected speed, commanded thrust would be reduced in all cases, you would be incorrect. If you are implying that in the case of 1549 commanded thrust would be less than climb thrust because selected speed was green dot, I believe you are incorrect.

I have a little scenario for you to try on your next leg. After takeoff and clean up, with the autopilot OFF, manage the speed, hold your pitch at 10 degrees nose up, then select the speed to green dot. What do you think will happen?

I will tell you that climb thrust will still be annunciated and your speed will slowly increase to 250 knots, that is if you hold the 10 degrees nose up.

Commanded thrust and selected speed are MODE dependent on the Airbus.

Class dismissed.

 

[usabusdriver]

I'll never even begin to understand this compulsive fantasy that any line employee, within the context of any corporate transaction, can ever possibly have "brought" anything other than themselves to the dance. I'm curious; do you at least have some photos of a pilot carrying a left or right seat from one aircraft to another?

EastUs,

Yes, an employee only brings themselves to the merger. Yet the point that is not lost on you is that what position that employee's seniority could "buy" them before the merger, should be what it can "buy" them after the merger.

 

[EastUS1]

.....what position that employee's seniority could "buy" them before the merger, should be what it can "buy" them after the merger.

Why? By that I mean; through what logical process can that argument, if accepted at all, advance anything other than the idea of protection for the specific position then held?....Wouldn't fences have essentially accomplished that? The east offered open bidding from PHX eastward, based on DOH, with no east ability to basically crash the party out west. Spin that as in any way "unfair"....?