Lets vote (just for fun)
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longing4piedmont
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Ouch.... looks like the IAM is getting spanked.... or is that "mugged"? 😀
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They have by the IBT or TWU in all the previous polls I've seen...makes me wonder how many pro IAM folks there really are minus Dell and minus 700?????
Probably not, instead he would simply be saying and doing whatever those at the top of the IBT tell him to do or say.
My guess is that after all that he would simply run for office in the IBT.
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about four......used to be a thing on here for U workers...but its gone the distance....new toy for westies... 😉
Thought that a union man such as yourself knows that a "Scab" is one who is doing struck work, so how as you becoming an IBT does not make one a "Scab" !!!!!
Unless you think the IAM is the only union there is and all others flail in comparison....
A SCAB Union? 😱
One of the more bizarre aspects to the lockout was the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and their involvement in the attempt at the unionizing of SCABs at Nationair.
When the Flight Attendants/Pursers and In-Flight Service Managers first unionized with CUPE, Nationair froze the ISM position and created the IFD position, which was not unionized and was a managerial position. This in effect, removed one working body from our aircraft, unless you were working with one of the few ISM's left. IFD's could not participate in service as that was "owned" by our bargaining unit. Nationair did not want to put another flight attendant on board, and felt (initially) that they needed a manager who was not part of any union on board, to be the eyes and ears of Management.
As most would probably expect, eventually, the IFD's decided to unionize, so CUPE and the Teamsters battled it out. Each holding information/disinformation meetings as the case may be. The Teamsters won the certification vote. This happened before the lockout.
So during the lockout the Teamsters set sights on the scabs. Getting them to sign union cards and saying that they would be the only group certified to work on Nationair aircraft and that the locked out flight attendants walking the picket lines would be history, never coming back because they weren't part of the Teamsters union.
As it turned out, Nationair didn't have a problem with it's flight attendants being part of a union, as long as it was the Teamsters union. Apparently, what they really had a problem with was CUPE. You know you're in trouble when a company wants you to join a certain union.
It all got rather confusing I'm sure... the company endorsing one union over the one they'd locked out, saying that they'll negotiate with the Teamsters but not CUPE, the Teamsters claiming that they were the official representatives of the "new" flight attendants, and then the locked out union members picketing corporate headquarters and saying that they were the first and only bargaining unit for flight attendants.
So not only were Teamster members protecting scabs as they crossed CUPE picket lines, but they were trying to break the CUPE union and replace CUPE members with scabs.
When it was all over, Nationair had spent so much money fighting us, training scabs (well over $200,000), paying over $35,000 a month for it's "private security" goons, not paying it's bills, third-party liability insurance, landing fees, fuel taxes and what-not, that they declared bankruptcy on our first day back at work. Not only that, but the President , who cared about nothing more than his reputation, found that reputation somewhat sullied by his sudden inability to get away with mis-representations, the resignation of 3 V.P.s, (VP of Communications, Head of Marketing and Chief of Operations) and his company being linked to gun-running.
Eventually, one of our competitors would promise to hire everyone. Everyone that is, except for those nasty union officers. Sound discriminatory? We thought so too, as did the Canadian Labor Relations Board. Air Transat was found guilty of discriminating against us for our involvement in the union, totally disregarding our superior qualifications.
Pretty strange for a company that enjoys investment from the Solidarity Fund in Quebec, Canada. This is a fund made up of union member's contributions. (Of course these union people in Quebec haven't been told about this, and CUPE sure won't tell 'em, so keep it under your hat okay? They'd be plenty pissed if they found out they were financing a company that discriminates against union officers.
Proven Raiders..... 😉
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IAM is only pissed cause the Teamster went there first
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Maybe because your the one that always turns the threads personel when they don,t go your way 😉
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Dagnabbit. Nevermind.
Well I never heard of any of those carriers, what year was that anyway? Do you have any recent examples of the Teamsters helping a company bust a union like the recent IAM treachery at NWA?
A little Raiding might be a good thing for working people.
Bird Doctor
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DIE with the OLD (IAM) or GROWwith the NEW (IBT)
YES>>>>IBT [ 108 ] [76.06%]
YES>>>>IAM [ 34 ] [23.94%]
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YES>>>>IBT [ 108 ] [76.06%]
YES>>>>IAM [ 34 ] [23.94%]
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