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How about this....
The east m&r got ripped off by the same union that they pay dues to.

My contract says im owed profit sharing.
Does the west contract which they work under HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE ??????
My understanding is the west still works under the IBT contract untill the "transition agreement" is signed.

"Eligible IAM Mechanic and Related empoyees as REPRSENTED UNDER OUR Mechanic and Related Agreement"

Now i know im represented under the agreement put forth to the membership during our last bankruptsy. Is the west m&r working under the same contract?? Or are they still working under the IBT contract till a transistion agreement is finalized?????

Seems to me that the IAM and the company (same) is taking from east to appease west.
 
Boyd is a fool, and sorry if you all dont like the fact that US raised the cash for the merger and contacted HP about it.

Guess the years of Doogie koolaid has warped your views of thinking.

wow 700 if that was true than there would be no change of control grievance. You want to believe so bad that EAST bought west but you believe so bad that the change of control is a great grievance you cant have it both ways. Dont tell the arbitrator that east got the financing for this deal because than the grievance is DEAD.
 
How long have you been an Arbiter, Lawyer and Financial Expert?

Just because East raised the money doesnt mean there was not a change of control.

Go read the SEC documents and all the filings of the Executive Contracts and you will see the company stating there was a change of control.

If you are so right about the grievance being dead, give us the facts to back it up?

If it was so dead why did the company go to Bankruptcy Court to stop the arbitration?

Don't let the facts get on your way.
 
i never said it was dead i was questioning your proof on how the east raised the money? I believe the west raised the money and bought east, justlike all the SEC filings show " AWA aquiered the east for accounting purpopses only". show me your FACTS that east raised the money
 
You believe?

I backed it up, John Luth of Seabury and Associates raised the cash, that is a fact,he worked for Lakefield and US Airways, not HP and Doogie.

The info I posted was all done prior to the merger, ie. ATSB, ZW, RP and GECAS.

The rest were lined up to complete the merger.

If you believe west raised the cash then prove it, I all ready proved my case.
 
Hey this is for both of you - should we not concern ourselfs with solidarity issues rather than argueing who bought who - its done so it doesn't matter anymore the only thing that matters is keeping Parker and Hemmingway from getting into our shorts? Seems to me that is way more important. The line between east and west needs to get fuzzy not be drawn sharper by all this bickering.
 
America West Holdings
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America West Holdings Corporation is an Arizona-based company owned by US Airways Group Inc. Its primary holding is America West Airlines.America West's corporate offices in Tempe are housed in one of the first commercial high-rise buildings constructed in the downtown area, featuring a unique "airfoil" motif in the shape of its roof.
History
In December, 2004, America West Holdings Corporation announced interest in buying part of ATA Airlines, but did not submit a bid.
On May 19, 2005 the corporation and US Airways Group Inc. announced plans to merge their operations.
On September 27, 2005, the acquisition of US Airways Group Inc. was completed.
Acquisition of US Airways Group
On April 20, 2005 it was announced that America West Holdings Corporation was in talks with US Airways Group Inc., which owns US Airways, regarding a possible acquisition of the latter. As reported in the press, US Airways would create a new holding company. Shares in that company would be given to America West Holdings shareholders as well as creditors of US Airways.
On May 19, 2005, America West Holdings Corporation and US Airways Group Inc. announced plans to merge their operations. The Wall Street Journal reported that Doug Parker, America West's chief executive, said the merger would create "the nation's first full-service airline with the customer-friendly pricing structure of a low-fare carrier." The proposed combined airline hopes to achieve profitibility by cutting $600 million a year in costs. New equity investors, including Air Wisconsin Airways Corporation and ACE Aviation Holdings, the parent company of Air Canada, pledged to invest a total of $350 million in the new company. Later investments increased the total new equity raised to $565 million. Of that, ACE Aviation (which, like US Airways, is a Star Alliance member) would contribute $75 million for a 7% ownership stake. ACE Aviation would also receive a five-year, C$1.5 billion (US$1.19 billion) contract to maintain all of the merged company's mainline jets. ACE Aviation would also provide other services for the new company, including ground handling, training, and operation of regional jets. Such cooperation is expected to bring more traffic to Air Canada from the merged carriers, and could lead to a code-sharing alliance in the future, the Journal reported.
On September 13, 2005, America West's shareholders voted to approve the merger agreement. 95.5 percent of shareholders approved the transaction. See: results of shareholder voting.
On September 16, 2005, the US Bankruptcy Court approved USAirways Chapter 11 Plan of Reorganization, clearing the way for the merger to be closed as soon as September 27, 2005. For the merger approval announcement see Plan of Reorganization Approval
The Journal characterized the merger proposal as "[offering] a huge break to US Airways and potentially [carrying] big risks for America West," which is in better fiscal shape. In the weeks leading up to the merger announcement, Phoenix-area media reported that local passengers worried about cuts in service to the city's Sky Harbor International Airport, where America West has its largest hub; such things have happened before when US Airways (or a predecessor company) merged with a regional airline. But while the new company would operate under the US Airways name, management would be led by America West Airlines managers and would be located at America West's Phoenix headquarters.
Under terms of the merger agreement, America West Holdings was merged into Barbell Acquisition Corporation, a subsidiary of US Airways Group Inc., on September 27, 2005, with America West Holdings as the surviving company. All of the currently operating airlines will retain their current names and continue operating until 2007. Details on how the various operations will be merged will be resolved at a future date and will need to be approved by the FAA where they affect operating procedures.
US Airways Group
US Airways Group Inc. NYSE: LCC is the Tempe, Arizona-based airline holding company that operates US Airways, US Airways Express and America West Airlines. It also operates additional companies that provide associated services. When combined, the US Airways Group airlines form the largest low-cost, hub-and-spoke based airline network in the U.S.. The network covers destinations in 47 states, as well as numerous international destinations.
History
Prior to being acquired by America West Holdings Corporation, company was based in Arlington County, Virginia.
On September 12, 2004, US Airways Group and most of its subsidaries filed for bankruptcy protection for the second time in three years. US Airways Group and the aforementioned subsidiaries, including US Airways, emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on September 27, 2005, in connection with the completion of its merger with America West Holdings Corporation.
On May 19, 2005, US Airways Group announced that it would merge with Tempe, Arizona-based America West Holdings Corporation, whose strength in the West would complement US Airways' routes in the Northeast, Europe, and the Caribbean. At the time of announcement, plans called for the new entity to retain the US Airways brand, its Dividend Miles frequent flyer program, and participation in the Star Alliance (subject to the approval of partner United Airlines); however, it will be headquartered at America West's corporate offices and America West executives and board members would be in control of the merged company. The merger was completed on September 27, 2005.
On November 15, 2006, US Airways announced a proposal to merge with Delta Air Lines for $8 billion in cash and stock.[1]
Subsidiaries
Airlines
• US Airways, Inc. which includes the US Airways Shuttle service
• US Airways Express
o Piedmont Airlines, Inc. dba US Airways Express
o PSA Airlines, Inc. dba US Airways Express
• America West Holdings Corporation f/k/a (Formerly Known As)Barbell Acquisition Corp.
• America West Airlines, Inc., including its America West Vacations division.
2005: Acquisition by America West and others On May 19, 2005, US Airways Group announced that it would merge with Arizona-based America West Holdings Corporation (parent company of America West Airlines), whose strength in the West would complement US Airways' routes in the Northeast, Europe, and the Caribbean. The new entity retains the US Airways name due to its non-regional emphasis, as well as its greater worldwide brand recognition, its Dividend Miles frequent flyer program, and its participation in the Star Alliance.
US Airways merges with America West
Largely an acquisition versus a merger
, the new US Airways is headquartered at the former America West corporate offices in Tempe, Arizona, and America West executives and board members are largely in control of the merged company. The acquisition by America West Airlines will include consolidating all aircraft under the US Airways certificate, is scheduled to be completed in 2007, approximately 18-24 months following the merger of the holding companies in 2005 For the initial merger announcement, click here. Also, see: Merger with US Airways Group for additional information.
INFO FROM Answers.com UNDER America West Airlines/US Airways Group inc/US Airways Inc/America West Holdings Corporation. JUST STIRING THE POT BOSS! :lol:
 
The Slam Dunk Was Denied (IMHO) If Parker was able to get DELTA a NON-UNION AIRLINE he would have been able to Hold Off any and all UNION CONTRACTS by going NON-UNION. For you boys and girls this was the BIG PICTURE. What the NEW US AIRWAYS GROUP INC.(LCC) would have done was hold all union contracts up for 1 to 2 years while The Company Made Large Profits and we as employees got another PAY FREZZE till they knew who they were going to work with.(Hay west does this sound like what we just went through.) You EAST UNION MEMBERS need to look hard at what the WEST UNION MEMBERS have gone through the past 10 years. WE THANKYOU FOR THE PROFIT SHARING FOR THE 4 MONTHS WE IN THE WEST HAVE PAIED UNION DUES TO THE IAM. It is a lot better than a hotdog and a SLAP on the back! As I have said in the past after working for AWA when I fart I sound like a well polished tuba and when all is said and done I hope we all as UNION BROTHERS and SISTERS don’t sound like a well Polished BRASS BAND. We need to stand as ONE now east and west and learn from one another, We are on the same side. AS ALL UNION BROTHERS WE MUST NOT LET THE UNION OR COMPANY THROW UNION BROTHERS UNDER THE WHEELS FOR ONLY THE ONES SAKE EAST OR WEST OR OUTSTATIONS. JUST REMEMBER WHAT THE WORD UNION MEANS. (FOR THE MEMBERS NOT JUST SOME OF THE MEMBERS) AND IF THE UNION CAN’T UNDERSTAND THIS THAN THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED, THAT’S WHAT WE PAY THEM FOR. The union I am in may not be the union of my vote but I am still a union man. Have a nice day.
 
Hey bird what do you think about the change of control grievance now

I stand by what I said AWAUSAIRTECH hit the nail on the head. AWA came up with the money. You have to look at which US AIRWAY you are talking about INC.> before merger or GROUP INC.> after merger. there is a big difference. Don't beleave the wooden nose know it all.
 
How long have you been an Arbiter, Lawyer and Financial Expert?

Just because East raised the money doesnt mean there was not a change of control.
Go read the SEC documents and all the filings of the Executive Contracts and you will see the company stating there was a change of control.

If you are so right about the grievance being dead, give us the facts to back it up?

If it was so dead why did the company go to Bankruptcy Court to stop the arbitration?

Don't let the facts get on your way.
Is this where you got your so called money to buy AMERICA WEST 😛

The Business Journal of Phoenix - May 4, 2005
Bankrupt US Airways Wednesday restated first quarter earnings to reflect a $91 million charge related to the termination of three benefit pension plans.

As a result, the airline's net loss for the quarter was $282 million, or $5.13 per share, as opposed to the net loss of $191 million reported for the quarter last Friday.

US Airways (OTCB: UAIRQ.OB) plans to exit Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization later this year. Merger talks between the Arlington, Va.-based carrier and Tempe-based America West Airlines (NYSE: AWA) are continuing.

US Airways has until May 31 to file a business plan for exiting bankruptcy.
 
At this point it doesn't realy matter who bought who. stick to the topic.It's a done deal so let it go. West, welcome the profit sharing money you got, it was a gift.
 
At this point it doesn't realy matter who bought who. stick to the topic.It's a done deal so let it go. West, welcome the profit sharing money you got, it was a gift.


keeping your job is our gift.....
 

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