MEC President Sucks

[flyguy121]

I will say this for Mike Flores, he responded to my e-mail this afternoon in a very timely fashion, and although the news was not what I wanted to hear, he not only answered my questions, but explained why it had not yet been released.

 

[PITbull]

The information finally came out today. I guarantee that he knows about this post.

Last time he sent anything out before today was March 30. Yup, just about an average of twice a month. What a cake walk.

 

[LCC_#1]

Would the East even remotely consider any of the West MEC Officers for candidacy when our two airlines are merged under one certificate and one AFA contract? I can think of a few that I would like to see on a ballot based on my past (and present) experiences with them as our leaders.

Regardless of who is at the reigns, would it not be more effective for those MEC Officers to take office (and residence) in Phoenix as this would be where the majority of interaction with Corporate would be conducted?

I would be far more comfortable with an MEC Leader that could meet and work with the Company on a moments notice than wait for them to come cross-country to get the ball rolling.

Flying is still free, so living in the HQ shadows is no big deal. What you SHOULD be concerned about is DP's unwillingness to give the East MEC Pres.and the LEC locals positive space when they travel based on some unwarranted notion that this is being abuse. How on earth does the company expect to have cooperation when the leadership has to fly jumpseat to get to a meeting? Perhaps this is what Doug wants.

With all due respect, you must leave the PHX mentality. We have alot of bases and there may be a wonderful leader in PHX or one in LGA. Location should have no bearing.

I do think East would be more than happy to see a MEC President from PHX, but not the current West MEC Prez. Many, including myself will not forget the undermining done against the AFA with management on the senority issue. Sorry, but after that fiasco, NO WAY!!

Believe me, I am NO FAN of the childish East MEC leadership and all the constant recalls and juvenile fights. The only TRUE leadership we had was from Teddy and she was replaced by a power hungry #### who probably needs to make up for his tiny penis...what a wennie..literally. Funny..and Teddy had the balls. Do NOT support Mike F as a new unified US MEC Prez.

 

[700UW]

I witnessed Teddy in action at CCY.

You AFA members do not realize what an advocate you lost due to Mike's power hungry dreams.

But you will see it when Jerry eats him for lunch in your transition agreement.

 

[ALCARLOS]

Flying is still free, so living in the HQ shadows is no big deal. What you SHOULD be concerned about is DP's unwillingness to give the East MEC Pres.and the LEC locals positive space when they travel based on some unwarranted notion that this is being abuse. How on earth does the company expect to have cooperation when the leadership has to fly jumpseat to get to a meeting? Perhaps this is what Doug wants.

Could they buy a ticket?

 

[Quarterback]

With all of the other issues that should be important enough for the negotators (?) to be taking a stand on. The fact that the MEC President puts out an eline that is 2 pages long on just this issue is outragous!!! He obviously has the time to send NASTY GRAMS to PITBull so he should have the time to be keeping other news up to date. He and the other negotator is more upset with the fact that they will not be able to have space positive to commute maybe they just need to move to the place that the MEC office is located!!!

 

[LCC_#1]

Could they buy a ticket?

ALCARLOS

That is ridiculous thinking. Perhaps Doug Parker should pay for a full coach seat everywhere HE goes and full fare FC when he sits up there. Here is a ceo that I really feel wants to have a unified workforce, yet isn't willing to understand that most of the workforce is unionized. I know of no airline that has done this. If we were all stationed in PHX, that would be one thing but we're not and this is an ignorant decision that only prevents goodwill and fair negotiations. Mike should NOT have to ride jumpseat to get to a meeting with the company.

Quarterback

I agree with you, but regardless of who is in the leadership position, travel should be poz space. We are a big company and the majority is on the East. If the company wants to move Mike to PHX, fine, but whoever is the new MEC Prez, they will HAVE to come east. And I agree 100% that there are bigger issues to rant on besides 2 pages of well, you know. Poz space is or should be a mute point. I feel Mike is not in this for the good of the f/as but himself. I have dealt with him and was NOT impressed. He needs to choose his battles carefully. That rant should had been between the company and the leaderships of both East and West MEC's.

 

[Quarterback]

I agree with you LCC #1 that when a union represenative is meeting with the company that they should be given space positive to do so, but I do not feel that they should be given space positive to go back and forth when ever they choose. Certain members obviously have taken advantage of this practice and for that others are paying the price. If they do not live where their office is located then it they should non rev just like other commuters have to do. They should not pursue a leadership position unless they live in the area that they need to be to conduct everyday busy.

ALCARLOS

That is ridiculous thinking. Perhaps Doug Parker should pay for a full coach seat everywhere HE goes and full fare FC when he sits up there. Here is a ceo that I really feel wants to have a unified workforce, yet isn't willing to understand that most of the workforce is unionized. I know of no airline that has done this. If we were all stationed in PHX, that would be one thing but we're not and this is an ignorant decision that only prevents goodwill and fair negotiations. Mike should NOT have to ride jumpseat to get to a meeting with the company.

Quarterback

I agree with you, but regardless of who is in the leadership position, travel should be poz space. We are a big company and the majority is on the East. If the company wants to move Mike to PHX, fine, but whoever is the new MEC Prez, they will HAVE to come east. And I agree 100% that there are bigger issues to rant on besides 2 pages of well, you know. Poz space is or should be a mute point. I feel Mike is not in this for the good of the f/as but himself. I have dealt with him and was NOT impressed. He needs to choose his battles carefully. That rant should had been between the company and the leaderships of both East and West MEC's.

 

[700UW]

The company is providing them with positive space travel for negotiations or any other union business that is deemed company business.

And the company has pulled all union rep's positive space travel, so if a grievance rep has to meet with a member and it is not dealing with the company the travel is space available.

 

[Quarterback]

The company is providing them with positive space travel for negotiations or any other union business that is deemed company business.

And the company has pulled all union rep's positive space travel, so if a grievance rep has to meet with a member and it is not dealing with the company the travel is space available.

The local grievance rep. should be meeting the member where the member is based. The real issue is that the rep cannot just go back and forth and has to be space available like the rest of the employee group. What is occuring once again is from abuse of the past practice. Unfortunately it is apparent with this company that the majority must suffer because of a few who abuse the system. (Examples...sick time, reserve system, personal days, etc.) y

 

[Quarterback]

Anyone notice that once this topic was started information started being put out. B)

 

[Travelpro72]

To compare Teddy to Mike is truly apples and oranges. Though some may bash her and blame her for many things, I don't. Considering the condition of the company and operating under BK 1 and 2, we would have been screwed much worse than some think today. For those that never seen her in action or heard her on the radio in PIT or on TV you have NO idea. She fought so damn hard for her members. I have never seen anyone else with that kind of determination. Though I don't know him personally, this new MECP leaves LITTLE to be desired. Everything comes to an end. I hear more reasons/stories than Mother Goose could tell herself about him and his lackluster tenure thus far.

 

[diogenes]

The local grievance rep. should be meeting the member where the member is based. The real issue is that the rep cannot just go back and forth and has to be space available like the rest of the employee group. What is occuring once again is from abuse of the past practice. Unfortunately it is apparent with this company that the majority must suffer because of a few who abuse the system. (Examples...sick time, reserve system, personal days, etc.) y

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How it worked for fleet service local reps prior to BK. If travel was bona fide union business (grievance, training, etc.) travel was PS. Otherwise, the rep rode where his seniority placed him. Bear in mind, many fleet locals (and IIRC, CWA) repped multiple stations, unlike mechs, f/a's and pilots. For example, one local had stations in VA, NC, SC and TN. Most level II grievances could be handled via fax and phone, but occasions did call for the personal touch. Of course, the company interfered outrageously (we can't cover you while you're gone, can't authorize PS, etc.) They made you fight them every inch of the way.

Now I understand things went more smoothly in CLT and PHL, which lends credence to my conspriacy theory that the IAM sold out the original class II stations in 1999 - they certainly never bothered to represent class II agents at the district level.

Since negotiations and grievances are also company business, I am of the opinion all travel related to those issues should be PS.

As a matter of fact, that would be the approach I'd take with Doug. If the company will not authorize PS for grievances and negotiations, then these items are obviously not company priorities, and I'd demand status quo. For example, the company wants to put someone on discipline. If they don't authorize travel to handle it, deny any official action has occured, and demand a return to the status quo ante.

Either discipline is company business (and requires PS) or it is not (and thus, never occured).

How long you think the company will go if you take the discipline stick out of their hands?

 

[700UW]

Dio,

It is the same for Mechanics, we have four GCs and they represent 28 stations.

 

[awausairtech]

IAM cut backs LOL... BUT WE ALL STILL PAY DUES....AND WHAT DOES THE IAM PAY (ONLY 4 GC's MEMBERS) AND YOU GET A RAISE IN DUES,CUT BACK IN PAY AND LAYOFFS AND A PAY FREZZE TILL 2009.

WARM AND FUSSY LOL... 😳 :mf_boff:
700UW LOL