More MEM cuts

[Glenn Quagmire]

Kev did nwa ever have a large hub or ops at sea compared to say mem or anther city

SEA was a big MX operation for NWA. They did much the DC-10 engine check work and "A" checks. We had inspectors there to do the borescope inspections. They also did a lot of freighter work. That was a transpacific mini-hub at the time. Lots of freighter ops to ANC, NRT, HKG and others I am probably forgetting... and of course the HNL runs.

IIRC Delta used to have their smaller pacific operation down the road In PDX. That was the major transpacific op using the L-1011. I think that was the NRT flight for many years. Of course they also had the Western acquired HNL runs from SAN, LAX, and SFO.

 

[robbedagain]

Ok thanks guys

 

[WorldTraveler]

At its peak, DL had 3 tranpac flights/day from PDX. I am not finding where NW had more than 2 passenger flights/day at any time but perhaps I am missing a particular period.

DL and NW actually had about the same size operation at SEA after the DL/Western merger and about the same size as DL's operation at PDX. NW obviously used bigger aircraft and also had a freighter operation. DL also used the M11s at PDX and LAX where they operated up to 2 flts/day to Asia at its peak.

UA was about twice as large as DL or NW in SEA at the time.

Specific to your question about the size of MEM relative to SEA, at its peak MEM had about 250 flights/day. SEA for DL and NW and PDX for DL was about 20-25 flights/day. At its peak, CVG was just over 500 flights/day (all of these figures include regional carriers).

The AS relationship came with the NW merger.

 

[eolesen]

The company has its eyes on you, though. You are on a short leash.

Uh, how would you know this, Mr. Buyout?

Someone off their meds?

Guess which one is WT?...

You will get the climate on the board that you create for others.

As do you.

The AS relationship came with the NW merger.

That explains a lot....

 

[WorldTraveler]

do you also cut coupons?

 

[swamt]

Uh, how would you know this, Mr. Buyout?



Guess which one is WT?...

As do you.



That explains a lot....

Let's see here, I'm thinking, and thinking, Ok, I would have to say the one on the left.

 

[WorldTraveler]

The answer is that NEITHER of the two pictures are correct, male or female.

The correct caricature would be someone who, close to celebrating 10 years on aviation internet chat forums, is now celebrating an industry which is now moving exactly in the direction I said it would 10 years ago.
There have been people over the past 10 years who have angrily defended one carrier or another against WT’s theories only to now watch increasingly obvious evidence that their carriers do not have the financial strength to compete in an industry as they thought but do have the financial and strategic vulnerabilities that I have said would exist. DL has vigorously defended not only its key markets including in ATL and NYC but has helped LFCs understand that there are softer targets where they can find success…. And DL’s strength in its key markets continues to grow.

I have repeatedly said that the organized labor movement does not have a compelling enough proposal to convince over 50K DL employees to give up their non-union status in order to pursue a union-represented arrangement that delivers fewer pay and benefits than DL offers its own employees – and the divide is growing wider and wider every year.

There have been people who have relished in character assassination, manipulation of the post voting system, and every other tactic to try to silence WT’s message but the facts are obvious that DL is indeed solidifying its position as the leader of the US airline industry and positioning itself among the best of the best globally in terms of its strategic successes and financial prowess. The 50K non-union DL employees who chose to not be represented remain in that position.

As DL employees look at profit sharing checks for next year that will be the largest any US airline has ever paid their employees on top of a string of pay raises that is unprecedented in the airline industry, the only viable explanation is because DL is running a solid company built on solid business principles that people on here decried as either insignificant or something “their horse” could overcome, yet the evidence is overwhelming that the distance between DL and the rest of the industry, including labor, is growing so wide that it really is hard to imagine how far the gap might really grow.

So, yes, I have all kinds of expressions about the airline industry but the most accurate is that the industry is evolving just as I believed it would because I understood key business principles which others denied.
Some may call such talk to be arrogant but that is ok w/ me what they think. At the beginning and end of the day, this is an anonymous place for the exchange of ideas. As such, my ability to accurately identify the key factors that have gotten the industry to this place and that will guide it going forward are unmatched.

 

[Kev3188]

TL;DR

Note to self: Catch up on Homeland this week...

 

[WorldTraveler]

rather than walk away, the best option might be to rethink your strategies....

I've always supported your sense of advocacy... I just happen to think that trying to organize DL employees is a task that you can't win because they have the best alternative available to them right now.

 

[Kev3188]

Who can walk away?

Carrie is fascinating, Saul is a master class in nuance, and Dar Adal is just terrifying...

 

[737823]

Back to the topic of MEM

I tried booking a trip via MEM vs nonstop or other hubs was by far the cheapest. But both flightswere RJs. What a joke, DL doesn't even send mainline to BOS from MEM? Seriously.

Does MEM even see 757s scheduled by DL?

Josh

 

[Kev3188]

Not currently, no.

 

[WorldTraveler]

The goal is to keep frequency high enough so the local market remains loyal to DL.
IIRC CVG-NYC is all small or large RJs but DL has kept the local market

 

[jimntx]

Back to the topic of MEM

I tried booking a trip via MEM vs nonstop or other hubs was by far the cheapest. But both flightswere RJs. What a joke, DL doesn't even send mainline to BOS from MEM? Seriously.

Does MEM even see 757s scheduled by DL?

Josh
 
So?  Here at AA we have an rj from XNA to LAX!  (Personally, I would have to be medicated to fly that far in an rj.  )

 

[WorldTraveler]

I've flown OKC-LAX on an AE CR7. Wasn't that bad...but I was fairly far forward in the cabin.