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[Pi brat]

Your statement was concerning the A330 was it not, do the A330's fly domestic pairings?? If not then again Pi the statements applies!!! Quit trying to justify your lame position. DOH has been dead for over 15yrs!! Time to move on and find some peace in your life...

Oh! I get it! When I said you deserved an A330 Capt you thought I was serious. You are a trip. DOH died 15 years ago? I didn't see it's obit. Where does merger policy say it can't be used? If you read any of my other post you would see that I didn't think our postion would fly.

I'm okay with things, really. If this thing goes without any changes I will be just fine, I'm about your age and can already hold a capt bid. I just love pointing out your silly posts.

 

[wench1]

Get aload of this .
This morn on an originator-crew,,Mesa, went to Open the door-door slide deployed-----> flt cancelled--Oh my!

And this is Express..amazing..

If we had more mainline-this gar'bage wouldnt occur.

 

[Furloughedagain]

Off topic but i'm curious. What equipment does Mesa fly that has slides? I thought all of the CRJ/ERJ platform didnt use slides. (That's why the nosegear on the CRJ/CRJ700 is shorter than on the Global Express)

 

[NiceLandingCaptain]

AWA320,

You are truly clueless. The US Airways pilots believe the Nicolau Award is unjust and I agree with Jack Stephan...the East pilots will do anything to stop the Nicolau Award from being implemented.

Do you get that?

Regards,

USA320Pilot

Your reactions and beliefs remind me of another badly mis-informed group. Do you honestly think the the Hitler youth would have blindly followed Adolph if they really knew the facts of his fascist regime?

Are you able to think on your own two feet?

 

[SegmentKing]

Off topic but i'm curious. What equipment does Mesa fly that has slides? I thought all of the CRJ/ERJ platform didnt use slides. (That's why the nosegear on the CRJ/CRJ700 is shorter than on the Global Express)

the only express planes with slides are the EMB 170s, and there have been a few ISDs, but not too many. CRJs can not have ISDs as the doors ARE stairs, and the EMBs normally have stairs, but those with the plug-doors do not have slides.

Mesa also only ground handles (for USX) in a few cities in the south, and none of them receive mainline or EMB 170s.

 

[aquagreen73s]

The US Airways PHL LEC Reps. are not driving the MEC's action regarding the Nicolau Award.
Regards,

USA320Pilot

Too bad because I was giving the East the benefit of the doubt by ascribing the post-Nic antics solely to the PHL morons. You're saying that those antics - antics which are failing miserably - are the result of a collective endorsement by all East pilots. I find that hard to believe but then again, I find it hard to believe anything USA320 says. Nothing personal, it's just your track record for being correct is pretty poor.

 

[Elevation]

the only express planes with slides are the EMB 170s, and there have been a few ISDs, but not too many. CRJs can not have ISDs as the doors ARE stairs, and the EMBs normally have stairs, but those with the plug-doors do not have slides.

Mesa also only ground handles (for USX) in a few cities in the south, and none of them receive mainline or EMB 170s.

So you're saying wench1 is full of it? lol

 

[SegmentKing]

So you're saying wench1 is full of it? lol

No, just saying that I'm not sure Mesa was the correct ground handler. Do a google with the terms "Slide" "CRJ 200"; then "slide" "CRJ 700"; etc.. add each aircraft type in there. I've worked all of these aircraft, as a trainer as well, and can certify that EGOM (Express Ground Ops Manual) ONLY lists the EMB 170 family as having slides.

Now, having spent time at Mesa as well (I think everyone in the business is required to do that), I was within ear shot of the Properties Management guy, so I'm quite aware of where Mesa has stations.

Out east, USAirways Express stations are either Piedmont, PSA, or USAirways mainline employees doing the ground handling. Mesa handles LIT.

If the person was talking about a station out west that handles mainline aircraft, I believe that would be limited to FAT, and maybe Tucson - but i'm not sure it gets mainline traffic anymore. Maybe MEM or OKC come to mind as well.

 

[Crzipilot]

Not sure of the reasons, but I had heard originally a few showed up and if they didn't get the a/c or base they wanted, they would return from where they went.

And Mesa operates, I believe only CRJ's for US anymore, and such there isn't a slide.

And only station I know (east ops) that mesa runs is LIT. Which is also the station where they have to run upstairs and steal ice from starbucks, they finally got caught and no more ice. Though I think this was corrected a few months ago...

 

[Phoenix]

Two more decided to resign yesterday. Class is down to 14 of 31.

 

[nycbusdriver]

In my opinion, separate contracts or a joint contract with separate pilot operations with scope protections for both pilot groups would permit a new/improved contract for both pilot groups and maintain each pilot groups pre-merger career expectation, which I believe if fair and equitable.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

Your contention is very short-sighted and I disagree that this is what the east pilots want. What you propose is simply a short-term band-aid approach, and would be perfectly acceptable to the east if there were guarantees that we would not be subject to a future merger with another ALPA carrier. That is not likely to be the case.

Forget about fences and protection for east vs. west. The point is protections for for the east career expectations in light of a future merger. For this reason Nicolau cannot ever be allowed to take effect because, once it does, we are locked into that list going into a future merger where all the fences may then be torn down.

I think that the best solution NOW would be for the separate operations with equal contracts, and for the east pilots to get the H**L OUT of ALPA. There is NOT ONE THING to be gained by the east pilots to still be in ALPA in any future merger. In fact, getting us out of ALPA (along with the many federal lawsuits pending against ALPA) will likely cause the organization to implode since the membership numbers would tip in favor of the regional pilots to control ALPA. The legacies would soon jump ship when faced with being dictated to by ComAir, PSA, Piedmont, etc.

No.

No fences. No protections. Just singular focus on getting US (at least the east) out of ALPA.

 

[AWA320]

No fences. No protections. Just singular focus on getting US (at least the east) out of ALPA.

Oh please hurry!! The sooner you decertify the sooner we can do what we need to do, please please speed things up over there would you????????????

 

[Callsign_Cactus]

When they finally recall all of the furloughed guys and start with new hires, just curious, what is first year pay rate under LOA 93? No hidden agenda/attack here, only curious.

Two more decided to resign yesterday. Class is down to 14 of 31.

 

[supercruiser]

East attrition is not causing major advancements or quality of life improvements for many East pilots at all. Just a few a month. As the West pilots accurately portray, much of the Age 60 attrition is from the East First Officer ranks. There will be no Permenant Base Bid's until at least November.

Not true. Depends on what you call major advancement, and where you are on the list. Junior E Capt's 6 months ago now extremely close (next bid whenever that might be) to holding secondary lines. E pilots returning from furlough 6 months ago now holding secondary lines. That's not chopped liver, and sure as heck a lot better than "save Dave" is doing.

 

[luvn737s]

I think that the best solution NOW would be for the separate operations with equal contracts, and for the east pilots to get the H**L OUT of ALPA. There is NOT ONE THING to be gained by the east pilots to still be in ALPA in any future merger. In fact, getting us out of ALPA (along with the many federal lawsuits pending against ALPA) will likely cause the organization to implode since the membership numbers would tip in favor of the regional pilots to control ALPA. The legacies would soon jump ship when faced with being dictated to by ComAir, PSA, Piedmont, etc.

Make sure you tell the folks you're selling the USAPA idea to, that they'll need to keep at a minimum $2-3K set aside for cash assessments to cover legal and administrative fees. Assessments, which if not paid, will (not may) result in the loss of their jobs.

The best of luck, we're all counting on you.