More of the usual off topic posts

[justaumechanic]

No suprise here..

US Airways gets everything it wants from the judge..

Basically they are burning the furniture now.

 

[delldude]

No suprise here..

US Airways gets everything it wants from the judge..

Basically they are burning the furniture now.

[post="248997"][/post]​

gotta cover the severance packages somehow......

 

[Rico]

No suprise that you have to place a negative spin on it either.

Start calling you justabadattitude.

It was part of a overall deal negotiated with PHL, the sum total of which is positive for US Airways, Get over it.

 

[delldude]

No suprise that you have to place a negative spin on it either.

Start calling you justabadattitude.

It was part of a overall deal negotiated with PHL, the sum total of which is positive for US Airways, Get over it.

[post="248999"][/post]​

nothing like a dose of crabs before morning coffee there rico..... :down:

 

[delldude]

Certain folks on here just can't deal with a few simple things Rico

When it comes to beating up their unions for wage consessions there is none better than US Airways Labor Relations. Like another poster pointed out Jerry Glass should recieve a hefty bonus as he is for certain the one executive that did his job, which was get concessions of massive proportions. HE DID!

When it comes to keeping track of money this team has been very astute. The doors are open IMO because of this fact.

Their point of view was soundly defeated in EVERY ratification vote. Face facts you lost.

The "Concession Stand is Closed" backfired and that group took the biggest hit in terms of wages and job losses. Of course their "Leader" still cashs his fat arsed check but Lakefield is supposed to take a cut? That would laughable if it weren't so hypocritical.

Load factors are up! So somebody must be doing something right in CCY. The fact that there is a load factor after the Christmas Meltdown tells us something.

So all you Gloom & Doomers take heart, tomorrow will be another day for you to wallow in self pity while your co-workers move on emotionally and physically to a better place in life then one filled with rancor and venom.

[post="249004"][/post]​

and we all lived happily everafter and ate at wendy's......
say hello to the good fairy...

 

[700UW]

ALPA took a bigger wage hit then the IAM there Bob, gee this is getting to easy.

And if you can remember it is not a tentative agreement, it was a final offer the membership approved.

 

[700UW]

See once again a passenger thinks he knows what happened.

AFA gave up their DCP for three years.

No other union on the property was asked for the magnitude of job cuts that the M&R group was asked. The M&R group Negotiating Committee came up with a offer that saved the majority of the jobs while providing "ask" the company needed, it was rejected.

So mr know it all please explain to me how a union can bring back anything that would involve 50% job cuts?

Let me tell you something there is no way.

But once again you were not there, you were not involved so you do not know what transpired.

Put down the 320 Koolade.

 

[700UW]

It was not an off the wall offer, it was a valid and legitimate offer, why don't you go ask your Idol Jerry Glass.

And the IAM was being creative but since you were not there you do not know what happened.

The company wanted what they wanted and how they wanted it, go ask the other groups the company did the same with them, the only differenance was that they did not want to layoff 50% of any other work group, that is why everyone else except the M&R and Fleet reached T/As.

And apparently you have not looked at the state of the airline industry, it is in the toilet.

And the interesting thing there were not even 7 US Airways Executives in the room during any negotiating session, the IAM was fully prepared to discuss the offer given to the company, the economist was even there with the negotiating committee. Guess you been talking to your "honest" buddy Mr Chiames again. It was an official written offer by the Negotiating Committee with the help of legal and financial advisors. But like I said you were not there so you don't know what transpired.

Glad to see your anti-labor, anti-worker and anti-union hatred is alive and well.

And I Guess you still cant fathom the company wanted 50% of the jobs, no union on the property could ever agree to that.

 

[delldude]

And don't tell me it didn't happen. I sat in a room in front of 7 US Airways executives and heard the "Off the record" proposal that was made and your moron leaders wouldn't even discuss it.

hey sherlock...the off the record,top secret proposal was made for and by IAM not management there pal....
and besides...now we have proof of a disclosuree vilolation posted here by nonother than the pine fan.... :down:

 

[700UW]

And another thing, since you were not there Piney and you believe what the lying executives tell you, let me educate you.

The company only provided ONE offer to the IAM over the three month period, then on the January 6,2005 they threw a final offer to the negotiating committee and the ONE offer was the 1113 c proposal from back in October. And upon the advice of their lawyers who told the company not to make any other offers in writing to the IAM. Gee Bob, proving you incorrect is getting to easy.

Gee Bob, were you there? I was and did not see you or your buddy 320 or Chris Chiames were not at negotiations, as a matter of fact the negotiations were led by ECLAT Consultant Doug McKeen, not even a US employee. Since US has a Sr VP, a VP, Directors and Managers of Labor Relations who were all not in other negotiations they saw fit to pay a someone else to lead negotiations, wasting more money.

 

[700UW]

See Bob,

If you were there you would know the company was extremely slow on getting financial data to the IAM, cant make movement when you don't have the pertinent information and yes there was ideas exchanged from November through December of 2004.

No unions were talking with the company in Nov and Dec of 2003, what are you talking about?

Like I said you were not there.

 

[delldude]

Was all of this alledged movement by IAM done in Nov-Dec of 2003? NO it wasn't like you say to me you weren't there. I was!

[post="249038"][/post]​

well hells bells....they hadn't gotten it outa our behinds more than a few months and they was a knockin' at roach's door again after promises that it would suffice and no more was needed...so why deal with liars then bob??
concession stand i s closed.............

 

[delldude]

DANGER WILL ROBINSON...DANGER...

 

[speedbird86]

No other union on the property was asked for the magnitude of job cuts that the M&R group was asked.

[post="249012"][/post]​

No other group on the property was feather bedded like M&R.

 

[700UW]

Please show me featherbedding in the last contract.