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First A330-200 delivery is planned for May 09
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First A330-200 delivery is planned for May 09
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I am just asking this question since I am not sure. Can the A332's be flown by both Pilot Groups or will be East Only unless they do bring a PHX-LON or PHX-FRA flight to PHX?
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My guess would be that both "SFO" and "winter" have something to do with diversions,especially heading west .
I commute LAX/PHL and haven't had a problem.
I have had a problem w/ a 75 stopping in MCI in the middle of winter.
I recall from flying in and out of the Bay Area years ago that SFO seemed to present more problems than OAK did, for whatever reason.
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The fuel is cheaper mid-country.
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Oh, and I hear that the new 321's will have.... drumroll.. 12 FC seats....
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is this true, or is it someone's idea of sick joke?
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Would not be a normal situation. There was probably an MEL item that caused the fuel stop.
Middle of winter or not, if a 757 can go non-stop from Lisbon to PHL, it can go PHL to SFO as long as there are no limiting MELs.
Ive had it happen once on a PHL to SFO. We stopped in IND to refuel. The pilot said the headwinds were exceptionally strong.
As far as stopping at OAK to refuel... I think I would have thrown a temper tantrum and just demanded being let off.
As far as stopping at OAK to refuel... I think I would have thrown a temper tantrum and just demanded being let off.
Dangle the carrots in front of the east/west and try to whip saw the two groups with pay and fleet count
They don't the leases were cancelled. Only the 330-300 are coming for now
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I'm not sure you are correct.
I believe the leases on the aircraft that would have done PHL-China are cancelled but the one's described in a previous post will be delivered.
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You sure? I seem to remember -200's are the next to arrive....
The 2 originally planned to be leased Swiss 332s (via ILFC) were recently canceled. I do not believe these aircraft were ever seriously being considered for China (just whatiffed ?) and were canceled well Before the DOT PHL-PEK delay request was approved. The purchased units delivery dates have not (yet) been changed and are still scheduled to start in mid 2009. However, I understand that Parker, et al, are still planning to re-schedule some aircraft deliveries on the basis that fuel cost increases will delay planned route expansion. I do not know if any of these reshedules will involve the first 4 (or later) 332s. A ? has to be that since the delayed China route is only 20 months until startup - or abandonment, what aircraft will they use, since the A350s are not due until late 2013 or 2014? I DO NOT BELIEVE they will actually ever use a severely weight restricted and range limited 332 for a polar route. Ignoring the logistical nightmare of fuel shortcomings, such a flight would likely be a never ending financial disaster. The current US - Airbus contract has provisions to substitute 34xs for 332s, if Parker ever chooses to exercise that option. The only other (reasonable) aircraft capable of PHL-PEK is the Boeing 777-200ER. My bet is the strategy is to hope/plan for the availability of short term (3-4 year), acceptably priced leases on several 343s, as Boeing begins 787s deliveries.
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could someone please advise if this is true?????
