Obama's War on Women
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More examples of why the GOP has a problem with women.
Kelly taking Dobbs and Erickson to school.
It's the womans fault
When three women want to sign on for life with a man who is now running for president, I worry more about whether we’ll be clamoring for a third Gingrich term, not whether we’ll want to let him go after one.
Kelly taking Dobbs and Erickson to school.
It's the womans fault
When three women want to sign on for life with a man who is now running for president, I worry more about whether we’ll be clamoring for a third Gingrich term, not whether we’ll want to let him go after one.
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So says the childless father who never had to really think too hard about someone staying home with kids?
I've yet to hear someone who was a stay at home mom look back and lament about how much more satisfied she would be had their kids been raised by a nanny or kept in day care while she worked.
I'm sure they're out there, though.
I've yet to hear someone who was a stay at home mom look back and lament about how much more satisfied she would be had their kids been raised by a nanny or kept in day care while she worked.
I'm sure they're out there, though.
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I would love to be there when you said something like that ti Megan Kelly. She would dress you down like a Thanksgiving Turkey.
You ignore the fact that this is not about what a woman wants to do but what women need to do as a member of a family that needs a dule income to survive in this day and age. You are ignoring the fact that DObbs and Erickson were treating a woman as a support for the dominate male. You ignore the fact that women are not treated equally in the office. You ignore the fact that in this day and age both parents must work to support a family. You ignore the fact that a father has just as much of an obligation to be at home to help raise the children. You ignore the fact that women like to work out side the home just as much as men do. ANd you also ignore the fact that it is a fathers obligation to be there for the child as well. Although I guess in your world that's solely job of the little womans.
You also ignore the fact that the putz on Fox blame the victim for wearing something that provoked a man to behave in a salacious manner. You ignore the fact that a republican tried to make a two time divorces and a two time (that we know of) cheater out too be a good and admirable thing.
I have never been hit by a bus but I know it would hurt. One does not need to have parenting experience to have knowledge of the issue. You have never carried a child, been raped, or had an abortion but you have made comments on the issues. You have no military experience and yet you have made comments on the issues. You have no legal experience but you have made comments on the issues.
You ignore the fact that this is not about what a woman wants to do but what women need to do as a member of a family that needs a dule income to survive in this day and age. You are ignoring the fact that DObbs and Erickson were treating a woman as a support for the dominate male. You ignore the fact that women are not treated equally in the office. You ignore the fact that in this day and age both parents must work to support a family. You ignore the fact that a father has just as much of an obligation to be at home to help raise the children. You ignore the fact that women like to work out side the home just as much as men do. ANd you also ignore the fact that it is a fathers obligation to be there for the child as well. Although I guess in your world that's solely job of the little womans.
You also ignore the fact that the putz on Fox blame the victim for wearing something that provoked a man to behave in a salacious manner. You ignore the fact that a republican tried to make a two time divorces and a two time (that we know of) cheater out too be a good and admirable thing.
I have never been hit by a bus but I know it would hurt. One does not need to have parenting experience to have knowledge of the issue. You have never carried a child, been raped, or had an abortion but you have made comments on the issues. You have no military experience and yet you have made comments on the issues. You have no legal experience but you have made comments on the issues.
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Again, missing the forest thru the Trees?
I was raised in a family with a stay at home mom, and we raised our kids the same way. My wife wouldn't trade a moment of the time she had before they went into elementary school.
I've heard Megan's husband interviewed as recently as last week. He's a stay at home dad. Nothing wrong with that scenario at all. I'd do it in a heartbeat, and have friends who did it.
The point you're missing is the impact on kids from having both parents working. It's not too far removed from the impact of having an absentee parent or a single+working parent.
Going back to the interview... do you really think that wasn't scripted for entertainment purposes?
I was raised in a family with a stay at home mom, and we raised our kids the same way. My wife wouldn't trade a moment of the time she had before they went into elementary school.
I've heard Megan's husband interviewed as recently as last week. He's a stay at home dad. Nothing wrong with that scenario at all. I'd do it in a heartbeat, and have friends who did it.
The point you're missing is the impact on kids from having both parents working. It's not too far removed from the impact of having an absentee parent or a single+working parent.
Going back to the interview... do you really think that wasn't scripted for entertainment purposes?
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I think you are missing the point and I think it is proven by the polls and the GOP's poor showing with women voters. Yes parents would like to be home with their kids. How ever in this day and age that is usually not possible. Most families require a dual income. The attitude presented by Dobbs and Erickson were that of an obedient submissive wife who stays home and takes care of the kids and has dinner waiting when he comes home. Do you honestly think either of them would be happy with a 'Kelly" as their spouse? I doubt it.eolesen said:
I do not think it was scripted. From what I have read about Kelly she does not seem like the type of person to script an argument.
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Words of wisdom from Pat Robertson.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/pat-robertson-atheist-women-were-likely-raped-and-thats-why-they-reject-jesus/
Again, this is why Romney lost the womans vote by double digits.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/pat-robertson-atheist-women-were-likely-raped-and-thats-why-they-reject-jesus/
Again, this is why Romney lost the womans vote by double digits.
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Great sensational out of context headline, but what's the problem with his response?
Are you saying that the only true atheists are those who've used free thought to rationalize why God doesn't exist?
Are you saying that there aren't atheists who've turned away from religion mainly because of the actions others have inflicted on them?
There seems to be no shortage of people who've turned away from the LDS or Catholic Church because of actions taken by people in positions of power, and many of them are atheists. Certainly there's no shortage of people who've rejected religion because of a stance on homosexuality.
C'mon, Tree. I know you're the free thinker type.
Tell us why his explanation is so ridiculous and offensive, instead of just doing a drive-by like other posters...
Are you saying that the only true atheists are those who've used free thought to rationalize why God doesn't exist?
Are you saying that there aren't atheists who've turned away from religion mainly because of the actions others have inflicted on them?
There seems to be no shortage of people who've turned away from the LDS or Catholic Church because of actions taken by people in positions of power, and many of them are atheists. Certainly there's no shortage of people who've rejected religion because of a stance on homosexuality.
C'mon, Tree. I know you're the free thinker type.
Tell us why his explanation is so ridiculous and offensive, instead of just doing a drive-by like other posters...
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I believe he starts with the supposition that that all/most atheists have turn due to trauma of some sort rather than rational thought. Given all his previous rants it seems that he thinks his truth is painfully obvious and no rational person could not see it.
I know a few atheists and to my knowledge, none were traumatized.
I know a few atheists and to my knowledge, none were traumatized.
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How many of your non-traumatized atheist friends have a violent reaction at the mention of God? It just doesn't seem to be a free-thinker reaction. I'm sure you'd find humor at God being projected onto you. A violent reaction? Robertson might be onto something... perhaps the mention of God is a trigger to some deep seated emotion that she can't control.Ms Tree said:
I'm questioning how closely you actually read the article. Was it just a matter of the title being provocative enough to post here?...
Further, what exactly does this have to do with Romney or losing the female vote in 2012?
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I do not know any. I do know atheist who will tell an evangelical to bugger off if they start trying to save them. The way it has always gone with me is when they ring my door bell or stop me in my yard I tell them I am not interested but thank you. When they continue I give them the "what part of what I just said did you not understand look". After that when they try to convince me that I should really take the time to listen to what they have to say is when I tell them to get the phuck off my lawn before I call the cops for harassment. These door to door sales people and people like the lady in the PR link do not know when to shut the phuck up and move on. So the 'hostility' is very rarely a opening salvo but a last ditch effort to get them to shut up. I am willing to bet that the lady in the PR piece has made more than a single effort to save her poor misguided coworker from certain doom.
I worked with a religious nut job like that in crew sked. Got to the point where a few of us complained to HR and they told her to shut up or walk. She shut up. Eventually got her ass fired for being belligerent at a gate because she was drunk off her ass. Irony at it's best.
I read this article and several more pieces on it. Tried to find it on any PR site but was unsuccessful.
It has to do with Romney because PR uses rape as an excuse/reason for atheism with virtually no substantiating facts. Republicans/conservatives/religious fundamentalists seem to have a very cavalier attitude toward rape. A majority of women tend to take a dim view of that attitude.
I worked with a religious nut job like that in crew sked. Got to the point where a few of us complained to HR and they told her to shut up or walk. She shut up. Eventually got her ass fired for being belligerent at a gate because she was drunk off her ass. Irony at it's best.
I read this article and several more pieces on it. Tried to find it on any PR site but was unsuccessful.
It has to do with Romney because PR uses rape as an excuse/reason for atheism with virtually no substantiating facts. Republicans/conservatives/religious fundamentalists seem to have a very cavalier attitude toward rape. A majority of women tend to take a dim view of that attitude.
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Yep. I'm sure there is some security-mom influence right now, and the bumbling of the Ebola scare couldn't have helped much with that.
Here's another really good (albeit long) read:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/27/intensity-gap
Here's another really good (albeit long) read:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/27/intensity-gap
