Obama's War on Women

[Ms Tree]

I'll stick with voting for the person most likely to understand the ramifications of the legislation before them, as opposed to someone who votes first and asks what it is about later.

Funny part about that is that you and your party only seem to find white males who are capable or representing your interest. I wonder why you seem to be incapable of attracting suitable female or minority candidates. I would think women or minorities would be just as capable of screwing things up as white men have been doing for centuries.

And please do not.pretend that the GOP does not vote on the bases of skin color and plumbing. They just vote for one skin color and only for out door plumbing.

 

[eolesen]

Candidates step forward when they see a need, particularly when they see someone else not doing the job to their satisfaction.

Go do some research on your own on why the GOP seems to have more success with governors races. Particularly, what does it take to win an entire state vs. just a gerrymandered district?

Something else that the DNC stays silent on or even encourages is how much media attention gets spent trying to trash the reputations of conservative minority candidates. When you see outright liars like Warren and Wendy Davis being treated as celebrities, and folks like Palin being treated the way that Martin Bashir and dozens of others chose to engage in, it's not exactly the same standard of scrutiny by any stretch.

On a parallel track, this week, the current Governor of Illinois tweeted out his support for an article in one of the Chicago papers which almost verbatim labeled black Republicans as being on the level with Jewish Nazi sympathizers, and questioning how someone could put their personal feelings ahead of the goals of "their people".

That type of intimidation is deeply rooted within identity (and union) politics. It's the same attitude we've seen taken towards guys like Ben Carson, Herman Cain and Allen West. They get smeared with the Uncle Tom label at any opportunity.

It's a shameless action, and one you rarely, if ever, see denounced from the Left.

Perhaps your question shouldn't be focused on why the GOP isn't attracting more women and minority candidates. Maybe it should be why there's such a double standard when it comes to how they're portrayed by the media, and why that might be more of a barrier to entry than anything else? How many women do you know who would voluntarily sign up for being called a c**t on national TV by the likes of Martin Bashir, or having their head photoshopped onto cheap porn the way that Palin's was done repeatedly?

 

[Dog Wonder]

I'll stick with voting for the person most likely to understand the ramifications of the legislation before them, as opposed to someone who votes first and asks what it is about later.

Only Old White Guys need apply. No one else gets it.

 

[700UW]

Why are old white men more concerned with a woman's uterus than real important issues?
 
And why arent they concerned about the penis and balls?

 

[eolesen]

The funny part is that "old white men" aren't the ones bringing it up.

It's nothing more than a "squirrel!" tactic commonly used by the left to divert attention away from things that voters might actually care about, like jobs, losing their insurance coverage, personal privacy, social security, taxes, oil prices, and the general lack of accountability that seems to run rampant in DC right now.

It's why Tree brought up Terry Land's supposed view on abortion, instead of conceding that yes, she as a woman might actually have more insight into issues facing women that her white male opponent can't possibly match.

Never mind that she hasn't taken a strong stance on it, nor is there any comment about other issues on which she has actually taken a stand on.

Its just easier to smear her on a lightning rod issue and hope nobody reads the other positions, because the voters might actually agree with some of those vs. her opponent.

 

[Dog Wonder]

The funny part is that "old white men" aren't the ones bringing it up.
 

Does that mean you are a 25-year old Hispanic woman?

 

[Ms Tree]

 

Candidates step forward when they see a need, particularly when they see someone else not doing the job to their satisfaction.

Go do some research on your own on why the GOP seems to have more success with governors races. Particularly, what does it take to win an entire state vs. just a gerrymandered district?

Something else that the DNC stays silent on or even encourages is how much media attention gets spent trying to trash the reputations of conservative minority candidates. When you see outright liars like Warren and Wendy Davis being treated as celebrities, and folks like Palin being treated the way that Martin Bashir and dozens of others chose to engage in, it's not exactly the same standard of scrutiny by any stretch.

On a parallel track, this week, the current Governor of Illinois tweeted out his support for an article in one of the Chicago papers which almost verbatim labeled black Republicans as being on the level with Jewish Nazi sympathizers, and questioning how someone could put their personal feelings ahead of the goals of "their people".

That type of intimidation is deeply rooted within identity (and union) politics. It's the same attitude we've seen taken towards guys like Ben Carson, Herman Cain and Allen West. They get smeared with the Uncle Tom label at any opportunity.

It's a shameless action, and one you rarely, if ever, see denounced from the Left.

Perhaps your question shouldn't be focused on why the GOP isn't attracting more women and minority candidates. Maybe it should be why there's such a double standard when it comes to how they're portrayed by the media, and why that might be more of a barrier to entry than anything else? How many women do you know who would voluntarily sign up for being called a c**t on national TV by the likes of Martin Bashir, or having their head photoshopped onto cheap porn the way that Palin's was done repeatedly?

 

And yet some how there are very few minority or female republicans who see the need to step forward. Only white males seem to see the need?

There are 50 governors in the US of which 29 are republican.

Are there no republicans being treated like celebrities? Ryan, Palin and others who are not fit to be dog catcher. They exist on both sides of the aisle.

So fire the idiot. Not the first time a Nazi reference has been made. Fox News does it all the time. It's been done so many times on here I've given up protesting.

You forgot the attitude taken against Obama but I am sure you will have some lame excuse as to why that racism was not really racism. Everyone knows republicans are not racist or sexist I mean one look at the parties diversity would dispel that notion right?

Nope, not the question at all. Women and minorities are derided by both parties yet somehow the DNC is able to attract more candidates than the RNC. There are minorities who are part of the GOP who somehow have managed to avoid this intimidation of which you speak. Rice, Powel, Jindal seemed to have managed OK. Perhaps it has less to do with race (although that is definitely a part of it) and more to do with the fact that Cain bombed in his interviews, Carson does not appeal to women, and West we he is just West. He is kind of like Paul. A few ideas surrounded by a whole lot of crazy.

Senator Rick Jones of MI equated a public relations exec to a hooker. Republican strategist McCNeilly agreed.

MI rep Foster called a nurse a c%^nt when she would not stop mowing her lawn because it was disturbing his autistic son.

The fact still remains that in the House and Senate there are more democratic minorities and women who are democrats. There are only 8 more republican governors than democrats. I do not know what the state numbers are but my guess is that there are more in dem states than there are in republican ones.

The only war on women is in your own back yard. Face it and fix it. Romney lost the female vote by a record amount. He lost it for a reason and it had nothing to do with media bias.

 

[Ms Tree]

 

The funny part is that "old white men" aren't the ones bringing it up.

It's nothing more than a "squirrel!" tactic commonly used by the left to divert attention away from things that voters might actually care about, like jobs, losing their insurance coverage, personal privacy, social security, taxes, oil prices, and the general lack of accountability that seems to run rampant in DC right now.

It's why Tree brought up Terry Land's supposed view on abortion, instead of conceding that yes, she as a woman might actually have more insight into issues facing women that her white male opponent can't possibly match.

Never mind that she hasn't taken a strong stance on it, nor is there any comment about other issues on which she has actually taken a stand on.

Its just easier to smear her on a lightning rod issue and hope nobody reads the other positions, because the voters might actually agree with some of those vs. her opponent.

 

When you talk about the war on women you might want to look in the mirror. The fact that you consider womans fight to control there own body nothing more than a "squirrel!" tactic commonly used by the left to divert attention away from things that voters might actually care about might be part of the reason you don't get it.

I brought up Lands view on womans reproductive rights because she is a republican who wishes to deny women the right to control their own body.

Something the republicans do not seem to grasp is that some women take the issue of who controls their body quite seriously. Lands stance on reproductive rights is not equivalent to her stance on paint color preference. It matters to people. It is one more vote against a womans right to control her own body.

 

[eolesen]

Whatever... Continue to beat the "who controls their body" drum as a fear tactic if you will.

Last I checked, abortion was still legal in all 50 states.

So yes, it is a squirrel tactic. RvW is about as likely to be overturned as the Second Amendment is.

 

[Ms Tree]

The regulations placed on abortion clinics in places such as MS make it all but impossible to obtain an abortion. People like Ryan who have sponsored sanctity of life bills that define life as starting at conception would ban them entirely.

Discount the female vote at your own peril. Romney lost the women's vote and the election for a reason. I guess you and the GOP have not figured the out yet.

 

[eolesen]

All that the Mississippi law requires is that a physician at a clinic have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital, for which you can thank Louis Gosnell.  The example that his clinic (and the lack of oversight provided by the state) are the ones who brought this one on.
 
Given how invasive a D&C can be, and the risks involved, is it really unreasonable to expect a physician who using sharp objects inside a uterus to have to meet the same standards which would apply to someone doing a tonsillectomy in a day surgery center?  As a man, I know I'm not qualified to speak to the risks of using a scalpal thru a speculum, but I'm sure you can comment on just how safe that is, while a tonsillectomy is dangerous and life threatening...
 
The fact that so few clinics can meet that standard of care shows how much the left really cares about the women seeking abortions.  Let 'em have second rate care, and don't worry about the fact that it's an invasive procedure unless you want to start waving coat hangars around to remind people of what the standard of care used to be.....

 

[Ms Tree]

All that the Mississippi law requires is that a physician at a clinic have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital, for which you can thank Louis Gosnell.  The example that his clinic (and the lack of oversight provided by the state) are the ones who brought this one on.
 
Given how invasive a D&C can be, and the risks involved, is it really unreasonable to expect a physician who using sharp objects inside a uterus to have to meet the same standards which would apply to someone doing a tonsillectomy in a day surgery center?  As a man, I know I'm not qualified to speak to the risks of using a scalpal thru a speculum, but I'm sure you can comment on just how safe that is, while a tonsillectomy is dangerous and life threatening...
 
The fact that so few clinics can meet that standard of care shows how much the left really cares about the women seeking abortions.  Let 'em have second rate care, and don't worry about the fact that it's an invasive procedure unless you want to start waving coat hangars around to remind people of what the standard of care used to be.....

Never mind the fact that surrounding hospitals will not grant privileges to a licensed OB.
 
Parker is a plaintiff in the lawsuit challenging Mississippi's law. He's a board-certified OB-GYN but has not been able to get admitting privileges at any of the 13 regional hospitals he applied to.
"Some we received no response from, but the ones that we did, they made reference to the fact that because the care we provide is related to abortion, they felt it might be disruptive to the internal politics, as well as the external politics, for the hospital," Parker says
Looks like TX has the same issues.
But attorneys for Reproductive Services subsequently discovered, after contacting Foundation directly, that “the hospital would no longer honor those admitting privileges” at all as of April 11. In court on Wednesday, one of Richter’s attorneys said that “no explanation was provided as to why” the doctor’s privileges had been revoked. Reproductive Services immediately ceased providing abortions, canceling more than 30 scheduled appointments.
 
The list goes on with all BS regulations that do not apply to other similar procedures but never let bias get in the way of a good argument.

 

[Ms Tree]

Then there is this.
 
Anti-reproductive-rights advocates and legislators would have us believe that, if a medical emergency occurs during an abortion, the doctor in charge needs to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital in order to ensure the safety of the woman. On the surface, that argument sounds plausible.  But, in reality, it’s a fraudulent concept—and proponents know that.
Why? Because, when there’s an emergency, admitting privileges become irrelevant. Under a1986 federal law known as EMTALA, hospitals are required to provide care to anyone who needs emergency care [with or without insurance, by the way.] This requirement includes pregnant women who need a life-saving abortion, are in labor, or are suffering the effects of a botched abortion. [Sadly, in 2011, a bill was passed in the U.S. House of Representatives that would have allowed hospitals to turn away patients arriving in the ER in need of a life-saving abortion or other medical help related to abortions. Fortunately, that bill went nowhere, but the fact that it was introduced at all is very disturbing. Opponents of that inhumane notion called it the “Let Them Die” bill.]
 
And this
 
In court documents, abortion providers say that “pressure from abortion opponents” has prompted Texas hospitals to revoke admitting privileges to doctors who provide abortions. Others, like Hagstrom Miller’s physician in the Rio Grande Valley, have been unable even to obtain applications for admitting privileges from local hospitals in their deeply socially conservative communities

 

[delldude]

 
She was known for helping out the family when the first daughters were born and received a nice passage in his first book, yet President Barack Obama’s late aunt wasn’t important enough for him to skip his golf game.
When Zeituni Onyango died two weeks ago, President Obama helped pay for the funeral expenses, and sent a note. Instead of attending her funeral, the New York Times reports he went golfing instead.
“Weeping before a polished wood coffin at her wake this past Saturday, they described Ms. Onyango, the half sister of the president’s father, as ‘the spirit of the Obama family’ and talked about raising money to send her body back to Kenya. Mr. Obama helped pay funeral expenses and sent a condolence note, Ms. Onyango’s family members said, but the president did not attend, as he was golfing,” Jason Horowitz wrote in the New York Times.

 

[eolesen]

The growing face of the GOP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfop5TeDnZo