One Operating Certificate

[AlleghenyVista]

Well May 1st has come and gone, and I heard that it was going to be pushed back to June 1st.

Is this still the plan? I dont really think so seeing its 2 weeks from now.

 

[Namesonaroster]

The latest heard out of PHX is September 07. We'll see with any luck

 

[N903AW]

Well May 1st has come and gone, and I heard that it was going to be pushed back to June 1st.

Is this still the plan? I dont really think so seeing its 2 weeks from now.

Personally I never see US on one certificate. By all appearances, it will always be East and West.

 

[exB717Flyer]

Rumor from the AWALPA MEC office is that One Certificate can't happen until One Contract is signed. Stay tuned...

 

[USFlyer]

Rumor from the AWALPA MEC office is that One Certificate can't happen until One Contract is signed. Stay tuned...

Not true as far as the FAA is concerned.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Not true as far as the FAA is concerned.

I agree. I think the pilots are about complete with their "home study courses" to bring both sides into compliance with the "new and improved" operational procedures (which BOTH sides now equally hate.)

Once maintenance is complete with the unified procedures, I believe the FAA will then grant the single certificate. As long as everybody on both sides is doing things the same lame way, the FAA can then give their go ahead. What certificate we operate under makes no difference whatsoever to the employee contracts and integration.

 

[etops1]

from what i was told. there is no reason to rush because there aren't many real adavantages so we might as well wait till the res issues are resolved. so that may be ...never lol .

 

[exB717Flyer]

Not true as far as the FAA is concerned.

The Transition Agreement.

 

[USFlyer]

The Transition Agreement.

This explicitly says US cannot have one operating certificate? Or, just that you need to negotiate a common contract before having one pilot group?

Plus, this is an FAA issue. If the FAA says you have one certificate, you have one certificate regardless of what the union says.

 

[iheartairbus]

I just had FAA guy on my flt. yesterday; we were asking him if it would happend he said the last he had heard from his superiors just days ago is very early june, now with the pilots senorirty list decided on and most or if not all of maint. on the same page, nothing really left on the list. I would imagine if not June 1, like company says very shortly after.

 

[exB717Flyer]

This explicitly says US cannot have one operating certificate?

Not explicitly, no. I really don't have any details on what the deal is, just a short statement from an MEC officer.

If the FAA says you have one certificate, you have one certificate regardless of what the union says.

Of course. The FAA couldn't care less. But before the company submits the paperwork to the FAA the union may have a say. We'll see.

 

[Mr Eagle]

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[EMBFA]

This explicitly says US cannot have one operating certificate? Or, just that you need to negotiate a common contract before having one pilot group?

Plus, this is an FAA issue. If the FAA says you have one certificate, you have one certificate regardless of what the union says.

You can have as many contracts under one certificate as you please. The FAA could care less about labor ins-and-outs.

Trust me- I've worked here on the same certificate, under two contracts.

From April 2004 to May 2006 US Airways had hundreds of pilots, flight attendants, schedulers, customer service, mechanics, and other union employees on the US Airways certificate under "MidAtlantic" contracts separate from the established agreements. As far as the FAA was concerned it was the "Embraer Division". The current US Airways East CBAs allow this, the division and the separate contracts could be restarted tomorrow. I know F/As can find where your union allowed two contracts/ two classes of F/As, it's on page L-40-1 of your Flight Attendant Agreement. Way to set a precedent AFA.

The company can operate with two pilot contracts, or two contracts for everything under one certificate. Its just like having fences... Metrojet, international division, MAA... Think about it, why would the FAA give a hoot who flies what and for how much.

 

[MarkMyWords]

There are two seperate issues at play here. Single Certificate and Ops Integration. Single Cert has nothing to do with Ops system integration. Single Cert could happen as soon as June 1st, but Ops Integration will be postponed until Sept or Oct so that we do not have a similar melt down as we did with Res Migration.

 

[skyflyr69]

FYI: