However.....I think the union made a HUGE mistake by taking this thing public. NOW look! A stupid Larry King show... This is NOT the way USAPA should make a name for itself.
Udder, I've got to disagree with you again on this. USAPA gave Team Tempe plenty of warning. Two weeks. This was an in-house issue until Isom forced USAPA's hand. You may not like the way USAPA handled it, but after the company refused to back down, what choice did we have? Play ALPA and roll over?
Doug's own people brought it on themselves. If Team Tempe had listened to reason, USAPA wouldn't have had to make a name for itself. Our union had little choice.
No USAir pilot is forced to go without the fuel he thinks he needs on board and that is a matter of fact.
Exactly, UU. But if the company gets away with questioning the judgment of its most experienced pilots on 10-15 minutes fuel, where does it end? Requiring extra training because a PIC demands 10-15 minutes extra fuel should never have been an issue. Increasing TOW by less than 1%? How much extra fuel does that cost?
For USAPA to do this when they are in contract negotiations with the company is in my mind........uh....rather stupid.
Udder, I'm not connecting your dots. It was the company that set the timing at the biginning of negotiations for this issue, not USAPA. You can't make the link that USAPA reacted because we are about to start contract negotiations. This sounds like more Jerry Glass to test our union's resolve. Keep in mind these negotiations can't even lead to a strike, because we aren't in Section 6 for another 18 months.
All the remarks about Parker drinking and missing the show for that reason are just plain silly. I'm sorry because I am on YOUR side but this kind of thing was shortsighted at best. The news media will be all over this for days and you know it! How does that help anyone, either USAPA or USAIr????
Yeah, the "Doug-Weiser" remarks (even mine) aren't necessary, but they're being floated on this board, not on CNN. Again, what choice did the union have? They tried to work this out quietly, behind the scenes, but Team Tempe wouldn't budge.
If any of you have been refused the fuel you want, please stand up here and be counted.
UU
We all know that no CA has ever been refused fuel as long as the plane didn't get overloaded. The problem is (I'm speaking as an FO/IRO), where does it stop? If you're worried about special training because your judgment is being questioned, are you going to hesitate or turn down that extra fuel when your gut and your experience tell you you need it? S