PHL CLEANER ARRESTED FOR STEALING

[linemech]

Hmmm....let's see, did the ankle bracelets and gang memorabilia give anybody a clue to how dedicated these employees would be? :huh: Unfortunately, that's as good as it gets in Philly!

These are not USAirways employees, they are contract cleaners from a company called "Sanitors".

Your comment "that's as good as it gets in Philly!" doesn't seem quite fair to the U East employees in PHL

I think theft by contract cleaners is a problem everywhere.
In reality that's "as good as it gets" everywhere that USAirways chooses to go with a outfit that seems to hire anyone willing to work for peanuts, coke, beer and Liquor.

USAirways management chose to go the route of contract cleaning due to what they perceived to be a much lower cost VS using U's utility workers. After adding in the cost of theft by the so called lower cost cleaners,I wonder if they even realize a savings.

It would appear that management just turns their heads to theft by these contract cleaners as I know management in my sta. have been notified that it is going on and they didn't even make a half hearted attempt to check into it. :down:

Linemech

 

[zethya]

I agree with your point that theft is a universal human trait that can be found anywhere.

But as someone who lives in the PHL metro area, I have to admit that there is a certain negative attitude and ugly demeanor in Philly which is unique to say the least.

Sometimes it's humorous or even endearing as with the infamous Joey Coyle who finds sacks of money that fall out of the back of an armoured car. He picks them up and gets away free and clean until he starts partying and running his big mouth off. We all felt sorry for him.

But PHL is a hard-edged city with lots of not-so-very-nice people who are out to mess up your day with their negative attitude. That's not to say that there aren't good people here either, but in PHL, it's the negatives who rule the roost -- Philly sports fans being the best example ( and sadly, those few recalcitrant PHL baggage handlers ).

I've even witnessed classic Philly negativity in the PHL Envoy lounge with a couple of employees who behave bruskly, making commoents that they can't wait for the pax to leave the lounge and board their TA flights. This is the thing that folks remember about PHL and I guess that's why PHL is the brunt of so many jokes or comments. But it is earned and deserved.

Barry

I assume that you have never spent any time in Newark, or New York City, or Boston or Los Angeles? No difference - in fact in most cases a lot worse.

 

[mga707]

I assume that you have never spent any time in Newark, or New York City, or Boston or Los Angeles? No difference - in fact in most cases a lot worse.

Never spent any time in Philly, so I can't opine as to that. But at least in the case of NYC, I heartily disagree.
Spent some time in NY in '01 (just begore 9/11, in fact). Had not been there since I was a kid, and was full expecting the worst.
I was totally blown away by how damn NICE every single person was, even to an obvious tourist such as myself! No rudeness at all...

 

[PITbull]

Is there a news story link for this topic? What did the employee steal?

Probably something like toilet paper, the pay is so bad...

That is one of the most moronic (right up there with pResident quotes) saying I have heard. It simultaneously excuses just plain bad management as well as allowing others to demonize a group of people.

No one said anything when Wolf and his Board burned two billion in cash in their obviously futile attempt to prop up a failed "merger". Or when Siegel "negotiated" the "fee for departure" bane on the airline industry. Just a few bad apples?

and besides, maybe you are not paying the right price for the apples. When you don't value the merchandise, you tend to accept bad apples, either through inattention or you just don't care to ensure the very best.

damn it! Just hate having to agree with you. The company hired contracted employees to clean...this is what they get...no loyalty to anything.

 

[The End]

My statement has to do with the fact there are bad people on both east and west, IAM and Teamsters. No organization is without them, it is a constant job weeding them out.

U won't weed them out. They promote them to management!! The End

 

[sharktooth]

OH dear you critisized a pilot or a Union leader!!! )depending on who is posting under that screen name)

Wow? Off your meds, yet again, bj?

Don't you know that pilots (well at least one pilot) can't be wrong? Even if he was fired for abusing the TSA?

Don't know of any USAir pilot "abusing the TSA". If they did, would they still be a pilot? Would not they be on some sort of "no-fly" list, like you should be?

You can start by researching when the TSA actually began, not that truthfulness ever approached your doorstep. BTW, did you know moron Bush was against TSA?

My understanding is fee for departure was around for quite some time

Pulease, educate us. Try starting date and players, contractors and contractees, if you can. Give us your "understanding", if you can.

If you cannot, then consider yourself, pwned.

 

[sharktooth]

Geez I thought the few bad apples references was just fine. But I never have verbally abused the TSA, or been fired from a union job so what would I know?

Neither have I. So, uneducated and intellectually just short of mollusks, what is your point? Perhaps you have no idea with whom you message?

I've never engaged in unproven allegations against an AFA rival who forgot more than you'll ever know.

So, bj. You are saying that the letter Xidas acknowledged as truthful is a fake? Taking lessons from Baghdad Bob, yet again?

so Sharky Snarky I'm really getting tired of working why don't you throw me off a US flight so I can collect a fat settlement from US.

When I throw you off, GITMO will be your destination, little boy. Collect what you can from there, assuming anything yours will remain virgin.

What a couple a moron arrogant pilot and his AFA LEC wife whose only apparent talent is making CHAOS pins.

As opposed to a cockroach and MEC chair cutting deals on the side and refusing to tell anyone. Yeah, your "moral standards" are so low even bottom feeders look down on you.

Companies will always have issues with employee theft regardless of the talent or ineptitude of their CEO's

And, who is stealing here? You, scamming flights that "happen to fit your agenda" or a MEC chairperson stealing something everyone _should_ be entitled to. Tell us who is "stealing"? You know someone is "stealing"? If you do not make a definitive accusation, then you are stealing two ways, you are a coward and you allow a "real" thief to go away. Make an accusation or STFU.

A inept CEO doesn't create a thief anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car.

I never said, "inept CEO". A CEO _can_ create an environment that could allow someone to think that what they are doing is "OK", even though it is not. Check out the Enron proceedings.

When you pull your head out of your tutu, you likely will still be somewhat in the last century. Do try to advance yourself.

 

[delldude]

These are not USAirways employees, they are contract cleaners from a company called "Sanitors".

Your comment "that's as good as it gets in Philly!" doesn't seem quite fair to the U East employees in PHL

I :down:

Linemech

too much time in the desert drinking mescalito juice and

too much time alone with steer's....

 

[SKY HIGH]

These are not USAirways employees, they are contract cleaners from a company called "Sanitors".
I think theft by contract cleaners is a problem everywhere.
In reality that's "as good as it gets" everywhere that USAirways chooses to go with a outfit that seems to hire anyone willing to work for peanuts, coke, beer and Liquor.
It would appear that management just turns their heads to theft by these contract cleaners as I know management in my sta. it. :down:
Linemech

Sky high states: Great Post, Line. In addition, those cleaners know where the soda's, water and snack items are. They've gotten comfortable enough to HELP THEMSELVES to these items. Imagine them on an aircraft by themselves, with NO LOCKS on the liquor kits. They have to be stealing this company----> BLIND.
CHANGE THE SYSTEM. INTRODUCE LOCKS ON THE LIQUOR KITS or CARTS. Flight attendants had keys for the cockpit doors years ago. Issue keys! LOCK THIS STUFF UP!!!

 

[delldude]

INTRODUCE LOCKS ON THE LIQUOR KITS or CARTS. Flight attendants had keys for the cockpit doors years ago. Issue keys! LOCK THIS STUFF UP!!!

they do.....

 

[desertgal]

Waaay back when, at the beginning, HP had their own group of employees who cleaned the ac.
Then they switched to contract.
About 10 years ago, they had to fire a contracted company due to overwhelming thievery by its employees.
I was personally a victim, but actually caught the guy and his ID was immediately yanked and he was arrested.
These cleaners were stealing money from gate cash bags, and agents purses as well.
They stole thru pax belongings.
They stole from the boarding area. The one I caught was stealing the cash out of my wallet which was in my tote bag which was stowed in the back of the ac. I was sitting in the front while he was supposedly in the back cleaning the lavs. I happened to stand and turn down the aisle in time to see him jump up.
It wasn't too long after that they canceled the contract and hired a new vendor. It was an overwhelming improvement.
Certainly, every operation has some who may be dishonest.
But our mgmnt can demand certain standards, and with oversight, hold the vendor accountable.

Needless to say, when actual airline employees were doing the cleaning, the planes were much cleaner and there was hardly any theft.

 

[delldude]

VENDOR OUT TO SAVE MONEY??

guess you get what you pay for..... B)

 

[700UW]

The cockpit doors on the east side are now a new combo lock with an electronic keypad, no more keys.

 

[BoeingBoy]

That's the post-911 security doors - they're required for everyone. But they don't do anything to prevent pilferage from the cabin.

Jim

 

[SKY HIGH]

they do.....

SKY HIGH states: THEY DO NOT. THEY SEAL THEM WITH "PLASTIC" SEALS. EASILY BROKEN OFF!